laydown these cowboys?

poboy · #1 05-06-2005, 07:17 PM

I have played a few sessions with BB(~300 hands) and he's 45/12/.96 loves to bluff and can't let go of a decent hand. MP1 is new to the table so I didn't have any stats at the time.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) converter

Button ($10.70)
SB ($14.45)
BB ($28.65)
UTG ($3.45)
UTG+1 ($21.55)
MP1 ($28.95)
Hero ($42)
CO ($24.10)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.5, 2 folds, SB calls $1.40, BB calls $1.25, UTG+1 calls $1.25, MP1 calls $1.25.

Flop: ($7.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB bets $1.5, UTG+1 calls $1.50, MP1 calls $1.50, Hero raises to $5, SB folds, BB calls $3.50, UTG+1 calls $3.50, MP1 calls $3.50.

Turn: ($27.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $5, BB raises to $15, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $15, Hero folds.

River: ($62.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $7.15 (All-In), MP1 calls $7.15.

Final Pot: $76.80

My question is about the turn. I'm 90% sure I'm ahead of BB on the flop, I'm not so sure about MP1. On the turn I make a weak bet knowing BB will raise if he has anything, I'm hoping MP1 folds and I can push against BB. When MP1 calls I can't put him on a hand I can beat so I fold, is this too weak?

ace_in_the_hole · #2 05-06-2005, 07:40 PM

I think you bet 20 on the turn and try to get it all in. I think a someone with TT or other set would have reraised on the flop. I think the river is a killer but on the turn i would try to get it in or take it down there and 5$ isn't doing the latter.

swolfe · #3 05-06-2005, 08:49 PM

dude, what's with the $5 turn bet? you might as well have checked behind (which wouldn't have been bad).

also, you have to raise it much higher on the flop...to $10 at least.

poboy · #4 05-07-2005, 04:11 AM

The weakish bet on the turn was meant to induce a reraise from BB which would pot-commit him so I could push. What I couldn't figure out is what hand MP could call my pf raise,flop reraise, and a turn check raise from the BB with that I could beat. I agree a larger flop raise would have been better, might have gotten MP out or defined his hand better.

sawseech · #5 05-07-2005, 04:38 PM

you folded to AT
"good fold"

-Skeme- · #6 05-07-2005, 04:39 PM

Nobody for betting more on the flop? Your bet was a weak one that is prone to set off a chain reaction of callers.

nietzreznor · #7 05-07-2005, 04:51 PM

I agree with Skeme, I think you should raise the flop more. Any A has a gutshot, there is a diamond draw--make a real pot-sized raise here, esp. with so many people in the hand. If you do this, I think you would have an easier turn decision.

elcap · #8 05-07-2005, 05:46 PM

My thoughts exactly. As I read the hand the first thing I thought is raise more on flop. You need to be able to get a read of where you are at or you will be lost the rest of the hand. I used to make these weak raises too often b/c I didn't want everyone to fold but this is a mistake.