Good isolation 3 bet?

Guy Incognito · #1 05-05-2005, 11:26 PM

Villain is 42/13/1.9. High enough PFR to attempt this? I was wanting a free card on the turn with the flush draw.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG raises, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, 3 folds, UTG caps, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero raises, UTG 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls.

River: (9.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 11.75 BB

wrto4556 · #2 05-05-2005, 11:30 PM

The OG PFRer has a dominating hand too much.

SmileyEH · #3 05-06-2005, 02:15 AM

My PFR is about 11 and if you 3bet me with A3s you are going to be in a world of hurt.

-SmileyEH

Yobz · #4 05-06-2005, 02:22 AM

Way to suck out on villian

KDawgCometh · #5 05-06-2005, 02:23 AM

this is very, um, "ambitious". THis goes in teh muck real fast. I raise much much more PF and this is a hand that I would normally dominate or be a 60/40 dog, but with much more potential then this hand. This hand should gone into the muck without at least one coldcaller. It worked out for you here, but you really shouldn't try thisunless you are absolutely certain that you can get away from TPNK, or really out play your opponenet, which would be hard with this holding. fold and go onto the next hand

SmileyEH · #6 05-06-2005, 02:23 AM

After looking at the postflop action I'd be embarrassed to post this hand.

-SmileyEH

Catt · #7 05-06-2005, 02:32 AM

That's too much - we post hands we're unsure of / confused by.

To the OP: You should muck this pre-flop. Since you played it, just call the flop and turn, betting/raising the river if you hit your flush or folding otherwise.

Guy Incognito · #8 05-06-2005, 10:42 AM

I've met women who aren't as pissy as some as you guys. Honest to God, WOMEN

So, regarding my original question, is there a point where Villain's PFR would be high enough to warrant attempting this?

And was raising the flop to try for a free turn a bad idea?

tytygoodnuts · #9 05-06-2005, 11:28 AM

I would never try to "isolate" with an Ace-rag. The hand is just not that strong. Also people will see what you are trying to do and they will call your raise.

chief444 · #10 05-06-2005, 11:41 AM

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I would never try to "isolate" with an Ace-rag. The hand is just not that strong.

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I would. I've 3-bet with Kx before. But I agree this isn't a good time for it.