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Old 05-03-2005, 11:29 AM
iNsChris iNsChris is offline
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Default ARGH! KK

I hold KK Mp2 - Raise preflop, Co 3Bets, I call.
(Probably should of capped? first mistake? But 3betting says A(Unknwon card) to me.

3people see flop(Sb, Mp2Me, CO)
Flop: 9s Qd 2s
SB checks, I bet, Co calls. sbFolds.

Turn:6c
I bet, CO calls.

River: Ad

Only think i can think of is to bet... Say i have AA hope he folds? I do it, Regret it after hitting button.

He reraises.... I know whats coming. I crying call it.


Main pot : $1.26
Co. Js Ah
Mp2 KK
ninoute wins $1.26 with Pair: Aces

How'd i play?
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Old 05-03-2005, 11:34 AM
@bsolute_luck @bsolute_luck is offline
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Default Re: ARGH! KK

cap preflop.
play it the same.
you can be nice after the river and say "nh" or say "nice rivered sucked out"- my favorite [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 05-03-2005, 11:34 AM
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Capping this preflop.
Then I'd play the rest the same way.
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Old 05-03-2005, 11:36 AM
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Micro limit FAQ excerpt-[ QUOTE ]
be unbiased: If you ask "When should I have folded this hand?", you'll probably get biased responses since you have revealed that you probably lost the hand. The results generally do not matter and should not be provided in the first post. If you played the hand correctly, the results will eventually take care of themselves. Provide the results when the hand's discussion has reached its conclusion to provide closure for those who helped you out.

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As a general rule, don't ever click on anything except raise with KK preflop as you are improving. This should be capped.

I am torn on the river between a conventional bet/crying call and a check/call. I think I go with the check/call here, though, for a few reasons but the main one is this.
I think you have pretty good induced bluff equity here. With the ace falling and the spade draw not coming through, I think that when you have the best hand here you are more likely to earn your BB by making him bet than betting yourself.
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Old 05-03-2005, 11:36 AM
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Me Ep2 with AA
I bet, Someone raises, Button(Who beat my KK last hand) Raises, I cap, Sb Calls and button calls.

(3 people see flop)
Flop: 4d 6c 8h
Sb checks, I bet, CO calls, Sb calls.
Turn:7h
Sb checks, I bet, co calls, Sb calls.
River:Tc
I bet, Co folds, SB Calls.

Rsults below.
<font color="white">
SB 3d 5d
SB wins $1.86 with Straight 87654

Who the hell calls a Capped preflop with 35o!!!
Down by a dollar so far. </font>
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Old 05-03-2005, 11:37 AM
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3betting says A(Unknwon card) to me.

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You dominate 46/49 possible unknown cards here.
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Old 05-03-2005, 11:41 AM
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SB had 3,5s - still a bad call. Looks like 0.05/0.10? Just take notes on those players and keep looking for them, they'll pay you off more often than you'll pay them.
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Old 05-03-2005, 11:43 AM
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Default Re: ARGH! KK

Definitely cap pre-flop. It could be an A, but it could be QQ-TT or KQ or who knows. With no read, we can't assume too much.

After the flop and turn, it's fairly clear that the pre-flop 3-bettor is holding overcards. I might check/call here, but I'm not sure. I'm usually fairly aggressive with my value bets, but it just looks like AK to me. I suppose JJ is also possible.

By the way, your logic of trying to represent AA doesn't make sense. You're not going to get anyone with an A to fold - if they're still in because of drawing to the A, why would they fold? If they don't have the A, why would you want them to fold?
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Old 05-03-2005, 11:49 AM
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[ QUOTE ]

By the way, your logic of trying to represent AA doesn't make sense. You're not going to get anyone with an A to fold - if they're still in because of drawing to the A, why would they fold? If they don't have the A, why would you want them to fold?

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Lol exactly, This is what i thought after pressing bet - Was bad, and i paid 10cents for that mistake.

Guess only the rocks who dont do crying calls would fold to it, Very slim chance.

Buckmulligan - Good point, Very hard when you just lost lots to that hand [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 05-03-2005, 12:00 PM
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ANother KK (Same table, Had KKx2 and AAx1).

EP2(me) I raise preflop, Mp3calls and BB calls.
Flop: 6h Ts 5d
BB Checks, I bet, Mp3 Folds, BB calls.
Turn: Tc
BB (Slowly) bets (Makes me think hes hit his hand). I call.
River: 6c

BB bets, I crying call.

Pot: $0.86
BB: 8h Th

BB wins $0.86 with Full House : 10s full of 6s

Not to bad this hand, Others were worse - Maybe i should just preflop fold my KK [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Any changes your make? Heads up is hard to check/raise. Cant see any changes? Thanks.
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