Was I out of line

[fingokra]

Recently, I was playing 3/6 at Silver Star in Phila, MS.
and this happened

I am small blind with q10s. One early limper, button limps, I complete, bb checks.

Flop comes rainbow with k,10,4. I pause (very briefly in my opinion) to consider if I am going to take a stab at this with middle pair.

Well, the button, who has no clue what he is doing thinks the action starts with him and checks. On seeing someone check on this end of the table the early limper immediately checks. This has happened in less than two seconds and I have made no action. I say hold on I haven't acted yet and I bet.

The dealer refuses to let me bet because two players have acted behind me. He says this is a house rule. (is this common) It seems like a stupid rule to me because what is stopping me and a buddy from sitting together a immediately check/checking every flop. Anyway, I tell the dealer I think it is a stupid rule (maybe I shouldn't have). He tells me that if I don't like it I can play elsewhere. Thought this was uncalled far.

So is this rule unusual, was I out of line? This is probably the best dealer in the house, but he knows he is getting tipped by the hand. He trys to go as fast as possible. I believe he contributed to the problem by trying to rush the game to get more tips.

Beat them for 380 in seven hours of 3/6 so they can all kma either way.

[Klepton]

this is obviously a very bad rule and it probably doesn't even exist, next time call the floor

what stops me from just checking on the button with a small pair when all overcards flop and then saying that no one can bet?

and with 3 people in the pot, you should have bet this anyway

[CrashPat]

Somebody can't act behind you because it isn't their turn yet. Call the floor next time because the dealer is wrong.

[fingokra]

thanks for the reply

the dealer said if TWO act behind you, you can't act

that was my point about me and a buddy sitting next to each other and just checking immediately whenever it helped one of us

four players counting, myself
I wanted to bet, that was the point. Did you mean I shouldn't have bet anyway?

ended up being a succesfull semibluff, because of how much I protested that I wanted to bet

then again as loose as this game was I doubt anyone folded a hand that would beat me at that point

[juanez]

The dealer refuses to let me bet because two players have acted behind me . He says this is a house rule.

I believe in mosts room 3 actions behind you is considered "significant action". If significant action takes place behind you when it's your turn to act without you protesting, it's tough luck for you - you no longer have the right to bet.

Perhaps the room you were at had a house rule where sig. action is 2 actions instead of 3.

In the scenario you outlined it seems that the 2 actions happened very quickly, but it happened nonetheless.

It seems like a stupid rule to me because what is stopping me and a buddy from sitting together a immediately check/checking every flop.

The dealer should put a stop to this behaviour.

[Trainwreck]

Sounds like BS to me too, this is the dealer's fault, he should be on top of things and controlling the flow of the game and should have told those 2 folks it was not their turn yet.

If he is the best dealer in the house, I'd hate to play there.

>TW<

[brokedickrooster]

As well as protecting your cards, it is the players obligation to protect his action.

I understand that this happened very quickly and there probably wasn't anything you could do about it, but if significant action in this place is designated at two, than there is not much that can be done about it.

How many friends did you make when you told the dealer it was a stupid rule? Was it worth it? As far as thinking they can KYA, you should be kissing theirs if you beat the game that badly so that everybody stays happy, and you can continue playing there. Don't let your ego get in the way of a profitable situation.

[zuluking]

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He tells me that if I don't like it I can play elsewhere.

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I would never, ever, tip that dealer again.

[RacersEdge]

Where I play, getting 2 or 3 - or sometimes more past the action is somewhat common. People just aren't aware of who is even in the hand - and then one out of turn action can trigger more out of turn action. In these cases, the dealer always somewhat scolds the players who acted out of turn. Hard to believe another casino can react completely opposite.

The funny part is when someone acts out of turn when it's on you and they apologize to you . "Ummm...no apology necessary...you raise? OK I fold."

[Photoc]

First off, it's the players responsibility to protect his/her action. In most rooms it's 2 or 3 actions after you constitutes "significant action" and you have forfeited your action.

The quote below is absolutely absurd.
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He trys to go as fast as possible. I believe he contributed to the problem by trying to rush the game to get more tips.


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Just say "time" and you have protected your action. It's the players decision to act quicker. Just because the dealer is running a quicker game does not mean you have to now play faster. Now if the dealer had skipped you and told the new guy that it was his turn, then that could be a different story.

I find it funny when people complain they only get 30 hand/hour in a casino but they can get 60+ online. Then a dealer runs the game fast and they are now upset that they
"feel rushed" and have to play faster. You guys can't have it both ways.