Stats Post from a "successful" LAG

[DavidC]

I'm not 100% sure what a good sample size is, so I put "successful" in quotations. It appears successful, but could just be sweet, sweet variance.

All these stats are from Party's NLHE game.

There are enormous holes in my game. Massive. But I feel pretty comfortable at this level (against bad opponents). My roll can withstand it, but I'll often have +/- $200 swings (8 buy-ins) in a single hour. It's quite a bit more stressful than LHE play, but my returns have thus far been better (better than the best 20k sample of LHE).

I have a tendancy to suffer more, emotionally, when I've had a large downswing and it hasn't been the result of suckouts (including people getting correct pot/implied odds to call me down): but more if it's been either big hand vs bigger hand, or people trapping me / calling me down when I'm bluffing. I'm pretty much unaffected by beats, but sometimes I have to take a break after a few bad ones or big ones.

I've probably played 60k or so LHE hands and have never done this level of analysis.

I'm going to just post the stats here, and then, in standard fashion, reply to my own thread with my thoughts about them. Please feel free to chime in with any ideas. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Hands: 19,225
VPIP: 19.71
From SB: 29.01
PFR: 7.36
limp/call then re-raise: 0.04% (not often: 7/19225)

**Question about Folding to steals: is the fold BB HU a subset of the fold BB stats, or do the fold bb stats consist only of when you're being stolen from, from either the button or CO, but not SB?**

Fold SB to steal (45 hands): 77.78%
BB (83): 61.45
BB HU (54): 62.96%

**Question about "blind defense": Does this mean when I just call?**

-Def SB (10 times): fold 40, win without 40, went to sd 20, but never won
-Def BB (32): f 28, w w/o 56 went sd 15.5, won there 80

Attempt to Steal: 25.77 (143/555)
no flop and I win 53.85, fold 14.69 win w/o sd 78.32, went to sd 6.99%, won 40%.

won when saw flop: 33.69%
winrate: 15.47 / 100
went to sd: 19.48%
win at sd: 50.77%
standard deviation in winrate per 100 hands: 60 bb

first action after pfr:
raise: 7.21%
bet: 52%
call: 2.33
check: 8.27
checkraise: 0.14
fold: 5.3
take it down no flop or fold to a re-raise: 24.54%

aggression (total doesn't include pf numbers):
-pf: 0.57 (raise: 7.18%, call 13.81%)
-f: 5.07 (raise 7.06, bet 24.35, call 6, check 32, fold 29.96)
-t: 3.98 (r: 4.83, b: 27.12, cal: 8.02, check: 36.38, fold: 23.66)
-r: 1.66 (raise: 2.68, b: 18.24, cal: 12.64, ch: 44.94, fold: 21.51)
-total ag (no pf considered): 4.02
-total ag inc pf: 1.21... pokertracker doesn't think I'm aggressive. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

fold to river bet: 66.58%

when fold: pf(75.84) f(8.72) t(2.78) r(1.34) n/a(11.32)

I checkraised 46 times, with that being 65% flop and 35% turn. None on the river.

**Something funny in this section: I thought that my UTG pfr and UTG pfr first would be the same... but it isn't... sometimes there would have been posters ahead of me, I guess. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]**

pos stats (each position roughly 2k sample size, except 6 at 1.5k and 7 at 820 hands):

**Note that below I say bb/100 to mean bb per hand, my mistake, sorry. **

button: vpip 23, cold call 3.18, win 9.96, won when saw flop 38.24, bb/100: 0.24, went sd: 19.71, won at sd: 49.40, pfr: 10.43, pfr first in: 2.57

1: vp 20, cc 1.9, win 9.17, won sf 41.95, bb 0.35, wsd: 19.83, won sd 55.07, pfr 9.47, pfr1: 2.51

2: vp: 19, cc 1.53, win 7.14, won sf 37.13, bb 0.09, wsd: 24.56, won 55.95, pfr 6.9, pfr1: 2.25

3: v 17.72, cc 0.71, win 6.7, won sf 37.42, bb 0.03, wsd: 18.06, won 48.21, pfr 6.46, pfr1: 2.23

4: v 17.92, cc 0.53, win 7.31, won sf: 41.77, bb 0.25, wsd 18.67, won 59.32, pfr 6.31, pfr1: 2.82

5: v 18.6, cc 0.20, win 7.01, won sf 39.41, bb 0.21, wsd 21.5, won 57.58, pfr 6.15, pfr1: 3.63

6: v 19.6, cc 0.06, win 7.75, won sf 42.05, bb 0.25, wsd 20.45, won 51.85, pfr 5.65, pfr1 4.22

7: v 19.51, win 5.73, won sf 32.54, bb 0.21, wsd 17.46, won 59.09, pfr 5.37, pfr1: 5.24

bb: v 12.61, win 16.37, won sf 22.98, posted: $573.25, net win/loss -$207.47, dif w/o blind: $365.78, bb/100: -0.18, wsd 17.82, won 45.31, pfr 6.77

sb: v 29.01, win 11.20, won sf 35.93, posted $209.90, net win/loss $198.28, dif w/o blind: $408.18, bb +0.19, wsd: 20.19, won 47.71, pfr 8.48, pfr1: 1.95

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Is there anything I've missed?

[Felipe]

[img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img] SHOCK!! HORROR!! GASP!!

[DavidC]

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[img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img] SHOCK!! HORROR!! GASP!!

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You win. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[theredpill5]

You can safely say that you are successful after 20K hands. You guys are ridiculous with your sample size.

I don't consider you a LAG. 19 % VPIP is not Lag in my opinion. You are a TAG. I'm no expert but LAG is more like 30 % VPIP I think. I have a 16 % VPIP . I don't consider myself LAG. Why does everyone want to be LAG ? I make fun of LAG's on the tables at Party Poker. Or I try to start verbal fights with them. Just did so yesterday. 15 BB/100 isn't bad for 20K hands. I'd be happy with that. Are you 4 tabling ? That's good for 4 tabling .

[theredpill5]

My total aggression factor is .52 . I guess I'm pretty passive but I'm winning. ??
Here's why
Preflop
.08
flop
2.5
turn
3.0
river
1.86

I'm penalized big time for preflop. I like to see flops I guess. I would say that you are leaking chips big time with all the raising and continuation bets if you are playing .10/.25 NL . Just my opinion, though. I guess it depends on how fishy the game is. That is why I see flops with A J rather than raise and make a continuation bet. Fish can't let go so I make sure I have something.

[theredpill5]

I noticed that you are extremely aggressive on the flop then it declines to the river. I'm semi-aggressive on flop then I'm most aggressive on the turn then declining on the river. Question is, are you happy with your stats ? If you are, then nothing we say is going to do a damn thing.

[DavidC]

re: redpills posts
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You're right that this isn't quite LAG... but it's certainly approaching LAG, when compared to the 12 vpip 4pfr guys that post their stats.

I don't know too much about stats, so I'm not sure if I'm happy with them. I like the winrate. I am multi-tabling. What sort of winrate can a single-tabler expect over 20k hands (before he dies of old-age that is)?

There's a checkbox near the top of the stats screen that says "include pf numbers in total ag" and remove that checkmark. It'll make you feel all warm inside when that pf number drops off. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Fish let go a lot more often in this game than in LHE, which is where I come from... and they fold plenty there too: Some examples I posted a while ago in the microlimit forum (link)

[DavidC]

Figured I'd see what hands are profitable for me (keep in mind, tiny sample size, so I may be getting them disproportionately oop, or against ops with good hands, etc.):
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KK @ 7.26 bb/hand (105 hands)
AA @ 6.82 (82)
A7s 4.72 (64)
KJs 3.58 (44)
AKs 3.45 (51)
88 3.25 (79)
A8s 3.05 (65)
76s 2.31 (48)
Q7s 2.21 (50)
ATs 2.07 (61)
AQo 1.87 (172)
77 1.62 (102)
33 1.60 (86)
TT 1.56 (71)
A4s 1.55 (59)
K2s 1.45 (52)
44 1.44 (96)
KTs 1.42 (50)
A5s 1.18 (57)
99 0.99 (96)
T9s 0.82 (55)
AKo 0.77 (181)
K4s 0.73 (74)

J4s is listed here, but I checked my stats and it was the result of a good blinds hand and many many folds. As such, by looking at my stats in the big blind for general hands, I can conclude either that suited cards are profitable for me in the big blind (that the losses come from offsuit junk?), or that this is a statistical blip and that it's unprofitable for me, even in the BB. However, I've been playing Q7s voluntarily, which is interesting (but probably not good).

86s 0.64 (56)
97s 0.63 (71)
JTs 0.62 (52)
66 0.59 (85)
22 0.51 (70)
JTo 0.47 (174)
KTo 0.41 (188)
A6s 0.30 (52)
ATo 0.20 (164) (I'm losing quite a few big pots and winning lots and lots of small pots with this hand, as well as a few medium to large pots.)

K7s 0.20 (54)
J9s 0.14 (52)
QJo 0.11 (165)

KQo 0.05 (183) I'm disappointed with my results for this hand...

J8s 0.03 (55)
KQs 0.01 (67)

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96s -0.01
A8o -0.01
Q9o -0.01
QTo -0.05
A2o -0.06
A5o -0.08
A4o -0.08
A6o -0.09
A3o -0.09
A9o -0.11
A3s -0.12
A7o -0.12
98o -0.14
A9s -0.17
QJs -0.18
JJ -0.19 (mostly enormous pots for this hand)
KJo -0.27
Q8s -0.28
K3s -0.30
AJs -0.31
J9o -0.33
43s -0.33
QQ -0.34
AQs -0.39
Q9s -0.42
Q3s -0.43
64s -0.49
98s -0.50
AJo -0.51
65s -0.56
QTs -0.58
54s -0.71
K6s -0.73
K9s -1.02
K5s -1.07
A2s -1.08
T8s -1.11
55 -1.55 (I think this is a stat blip: I lost 2/5 on a set on a ragged flop vs top set 9's (he pfr'ed), and some douchebag called me down with ace-weak-kicker on an ATT board when I was betting hard at him for the other 2/5)

[rikz]

I like the PT autorater, so using that you'd be a Tight Aggressive/Aggressive (TAA) and get a "Money Bag" icon in my players list (VPIP < 20, PFR > 5, TAF(not including preflop) > 3.

According to the default autoratings, you are close to being "Semi-Loose," but definitely TAG at the moment. So, the fact that you're winning, just shows that TAG is a good way to play. Nice.

[Allinlife]

your title is veryyyyyyyy misleading.