Hands review

chipolino · #1 04-30-2005, 10:38 PM

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 raises, 1 fold, MP1 calls, 5 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls. Reads: MP1 VPIP > 30% PF raise > 7% so this guy is very loose.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP1 calls.

River: (6.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks. Should I have bet for value here?

Final Pot: 6.25 BB

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, CO calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, BB calls $0.35 (All-In), UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (13.70 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7 players, 1 all-in)
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, MP1 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Hero calls, UTG folds.

With so many players here and being out of position, should I have bet here? How about check-raise, and trying to eliminate people?I have a weak gut shot(T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] not really a clean out) and 3 Aces/ 3 Kings two of which are [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

Turn: (8.85 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players, 1 all-in)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, MP1 folds, CO folds, Hero folds.

River: (9.85 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: 9.85 BB

milesdyson · #2 04-30-2005, 10:40 PM

Hand 1: Fold preflop to rockish UTG+1. Value bet the river.

Hand 2: Call the turn.

shadow29 · #3 04-30-2005, 10:53 PM

Hand 1: bet the river. I don't really make this pf call (but I might have at .5/1, I forget).

Hand 2: why didn't you bet the flop?

istewart · #4 04-30-2005, 10:58 PM

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Hand 2: why didn't you bet the flop?

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Why would he?

shadow29 · #5 04-30-2005, 11:14 PM

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I think that a flop bet gives you some info here. Plus he has a gutshot and some overs (obviously discounted).

edit- im getting offline now, but ill revist in the the morning

istewart · #6 04-30-2005, 11:22 PM

Well I mean, he's not folding anyone out, and it's clearly not for value. I can't bet this into 5 people.

ArturiusX · #7 04-30-2005, 11:27 PM

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Hand 2: why didn't you bet the flop?

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I prefer to check and re-evaluate after we've seen what everyone else has done. We can easily fold to some strong action, if its one bet back we could check-raise to get a free card etc.

aK13 · #8 04-30-2005, 11:54 PM

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Why would he?

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I think that a flop bet gives you some info here. Plus he has a gutshot and some overs (obviously discounted).

edit- im getting offline now, but ill revist in the the morning

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Betting the flop is dumb. There's no way I'm leading into 7 people when I've missed.

Greg J · #9 05-01-2005, 12:01 AM

You never make a bet strictly for information. You have to have other reasons, like yr hand is worth something too. You could bet 32 for info here, but that would obviously be dumb. Betting with a marginal hand is not as dumb of course, but still not a great idea IMO.

chipolino · #10 05-01-2005, 12:40 AM

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Too many players.