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Old 04-29-2005, 12:45 PM
Demana Demana is offline
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Default Since he doesn\'t bluff, I\'ve got to fold, right?

Live $3/6 Kill (9 handed)

Villian is fairly TAG preflop, aggressive, but not tricky postflop

Hero has KK in the CO

Preflop: UTG folds, UTG1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, Hero <font color="red">raises</font>, Button folds, Villian (SB) calls, BB calls

Flop: QJ4 rainbow (5 players)
Pot: (10 SB)

SB <font color="red">bets</font>, BB folds, UTG1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero <font color="red">raises</font>, SB calls, UTG1 calls

Turn: T [Q J 4 rainbow] (5 players)
Pot: (11 BB)

SB checks, UTG1 checks, Hero <font color="red">bets</font>, SB calls, UTG1 folds

River: K [T {Q J 4} rainbow] (2 players)
Pot: (13 BB)

SB <font color="red">bets</font>, Hero... ?
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Old 04-29-2005, 12:53 PM
thejameser thejameser is offline
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Default Re: Since he doesn\'t bluff, I\'ve got to fold, right?

call. don't risk losing an entire pot for one more bet. if he has an A or 9 it sucks, but KQ is just as likely a hand. i think you are good enough times here to win the pot, as top set, even with 4 to a straight on the board, it would be worth 1 more BB.
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Old 04-29-2005, 01:00 PM
Kyriefurro Kyriefurro is offline
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Default Re: Since he doesn\'t bluff, I\'ve got to fold, right?

A few years ago I was a very regular player in the B&amp;M poker rooms in Colorado (love that $5 limit lol). If you asked any of the other regulars there, they'd be happy to tell you that I never bluffed. And they were right. I never bluffed, exept for those times that I did [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img].

You are getting 14:1 odds on this pot. If villain has an ace or a 9 you loose. But he could also have KQ for two pair...or he could be bluffing completely. You need to be better than 93% certain that villain can beat your set of kings before you fold this hand. Unless you have a great read on him, I'd probably call, expecting to loose.
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Old 04-29-2005, 01:01 PM
DMBFan23 DMBFan23 is offline
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Default Re: Since he doesn\'t bluff, I\'ve got to fold, right?

I would call, he could have lots of non-A hands here - you'd think he would 3-bet pf with a lot of aces, so you know AQ and AK are not holdings, etc.

if it is close, which I believe this is, I favor a call for metagame and information
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Old 04-29-2005, 01:08 PM
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Default Re: Since he doesn\'t bluff, I\'ve got to fold, right?

I'd call. I think you're beat here, but I'm not 93.33% or more sure, which you would have to be to make folding the better EV move. But then again, I do call too much....
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Old 04-29-2005, 01:22 PM
BigBaitsim (milo) BigBaitsim (milo) is offline
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Default Re: Since he doesn\'t bluff, I\'ve got to fold, right?

Call and lose 80% of the time. Still +EV.
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Old 04-29-2005, 01:23 PM
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Default Re: Since he doesn\'t bluff, I\'ve got to fold, right?

I think the pot size warrants a call, but only you were at the table.
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Old 04-29-2005, 01:35 PM
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Default Re: Since he doesn\'t bluff, I\'ve got to fold, right?

As most have said already, the pot is too big to fold. He also could be using his "table image" to trick you here. He might suspect that you think he never bluffs. Just don't raise, as I am accustommed to doing when I get my top sets sucked out on. Yeah, I'm susceptible to tilt moreso than others. For instance set of aces on the flop with no flush or straight draw, next two cards make a gutshot miracle straight. I slow played the flop, which was natural to do with that flop against one player, and wouldn't you know it, he sucked out. Oh yeah, it was at Party Poker.
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Old 04-29-2005, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: Since he doesn\'t bluff, I\'ve got to fold, right?

Is it just me, or is TStoneMBD's image not the best ever? By the way, I worked with Ivy in Linden, NJ as a telemarketer about 7 years ago. He once asked me to give him a short ride home, I wound up driving him to Trenton. Even then he was taking advantage of the suckers!
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Old 04-29-2005, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: Since he doesn\'t bluff, I\'ve got to fold, right?

IMO you may have to call, not because you are good here, but because of table image.
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