Tough laydown

Mizzles · #1 04-28-2005, 10:46 AM

BB stats:

{{TOT HANDS: 1,076, BB/100: 3.57
VP$IP: 17.9, PFR: 11.1, WSD: 37.3
Aggression: 3.68, folded rvr: 60.0, W$SD-C: 20.0
W$SD B/R: 70
steal: 24.4, CR: 2.38
FSB: 87.50, FBB: 35.71}}

Button stats:

{{TOT HANDS: 1,799, BB/100: (5.11)
VP$IP: 30.3, PFR: 9.6, WSD: 38.2
Aggression: 1.22, folded rvr: 28.4, W$SD-C: 20.9
W$SD B/R: 70
steal: 16.9, CR: 0.92
FSB: 55.56, FBB: 53.85}}

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Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
5 folds, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Button raises, Hero calls, BB calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (8 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, MP3 folds, Button calls, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, Button calls.

Turn: (8.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, BB instant bets, Button calls, Hero folds.

River: (10.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Button calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

philnewall · #2 04-28-2005, 10:54 AM

That looks really nasty. 3-bet preflop. Once you flat call go for the flop check raise as your hand isnt so strong you want to trap the field, and there are draws present. What the hell were you doing on the turn? Checking, thus inducing a bet then folding for one big after you went 3-bets on the flop does not seem right at all.

Mizzles · #3 04-28-2005, 11:11 AM

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That looks really nasty. 3-bet preflop

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Do you routinely 3-bet AQ against a 9% PFR in worst position?

adios · #4 04-28-2005, 11:18 AM

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That looks really nasty. 3-bet preflop

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Do you routinely 3-bet AQ against a 9% PFR in worst position?

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What's his PFR on the button with one caller in late MP? Do you know? FWIW you have to evaluate the button's play based on the situation. Many players would try to isolate a late MP player here with a wider range of hands than they'd raise with in other situations.

Mizzles · #5 04-28-2005, 11:22 AM

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Many players would try to isolate a late MP player here with a wider range of hands than they'd raise with in other situations.

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You are right. You got me thinking now, but I still wonder if 3-betting AQ out of the worst position is the right play here.

adios · #6 04-28-2005, 11:29 AM

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Many players would try to isolate a late MP player here with a wider range of hands than they'd raise with in other situations.

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You are right. You got me thinking now, but I still wonder if 3-betting AQ out of the worst position is the right play here.

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AQs btw. I would step on it again for a few reasons:

FWIW

1. If you get the BB to fold and MP3 to fold lots of dead money in the pot.

2. Along with 1. there's a decent chance that your hand will stand up without improvement.

3. If you get the pot heads up and your opponent has an underpair you're not a big dog and there are lot's of scary boards that can develop that will make your opponents hand marginal as this may induce your opponent to fold a weak but better hand since you played it so strong pre-flop.

JeffO · #7 04-28-2005, 11:33 AM

I lean towards three betting preflop here, based on where the PFR came from. (the button possibly isolating the CO)

Since you elected to just call, I would be checking this flop to the button PFR and check raising.

The Laydown was awful.

Mizzles · #8 04-28-2005, 11:36 AM

Adios, I like your reply. You make excellent points. Time to start reading some of your other posts.

steveyz · #9 04-28-2005, 11:39 AM

I think it would be more imperative to 3-bet with AQo here because you'd like to isolate the button. With AQs I think you can mix it up a bit as you don't mind a large multi-way pot, but I'd still 3-bet most of the the time.

scags23 · #10 04-28-2005, 11:39 AM

Since u pushed it so hard on the flop I think u gotta bet the turn and fold if u raised