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Old 04-28-2005, 04:46 AM
Fnord Fnord is offline
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Default This laydown sucks, right?

BB is sTAggy
CO is loose/passive, but knows how to fold


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Preflop: Fnord is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls, Fnord completes, BB checks.

Flop: (7 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Fnord bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP2 folds, CO calls, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Fnord 3-bets</font>, BB calls, CO calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Fnord bets</font>, BB calls, CO calls.

River: (11 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Fnord bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, CO calls, Fnord folds.

Final Pot: 16 BB
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Old 04-28-2005, 04:51 AM
PokerSparky PokerSparky is offline
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Default Re: This laydown sucks, right?

FWIW, I can't remember the last time I folded a set on the river without 4 to a staight or flush on the board.
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Old 04-28-2005, 04:53 AM
Fnord Fnord is offline
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Default Re: This laydown sucks, right?

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FWIW, I can't remember the last time I folded a set on the river.

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Last time I did it, there was 5 crubs on the board and neither of my Aces was a crub.
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Old 04-28-2005, 05:02 AM
PokerSparky PokerSparky is offline
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Default Re: This laydown sucks, right?

Was that before or after the hand you just posted. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 04-28-2005, 05:05 AM
wrto4556 wrto4556 is offline
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Default Re: This laydown sucks, right?

You say the BB is TAG. Why would he face the field with 2 cold on the flop holding two hearts?

I call.
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Old 04-28-2005, 05:31 AM
purnell purnell is offline
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Default Re: This laydown sucks, right?

Yes this fold is bad IMO. Pot odds warrant a call here.
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Old 04-28-2005, 05:32 AM
wrto4556 wrto4556 is offline
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Default Re: This laydown sucks, right?

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especially heads up.

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Old 04-28-2005, 05:33 AM
purnell purnell is offline
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Default Re: This laydown sucks, right?

my bad [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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Old 04-28-2005, 05:37 AM
pfkaok pfkaok is offline
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Default Re: This laydown sucks, right?

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You say the BB is TAG. Why would he face the field with 2 cold on the flop holding two hearts?

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yeah, i think something like 87 is more likely here.

65 or flush is possible, but i think just the fact that a TAG would likely play the single 87 combination like this warrants a call. 16 BB is a huge pot... and i doubt you can be 95% sure that you're beat here.
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Old 04-28-2005, 08:52 AM
crunchy1 crunchy1 is offline
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Default Re: This laydown sucks, right?

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You say the BB is TAG. Why would he face the field with 2 cold on the flop holding two hearts?

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If I was holding two small overcards to the board that were hearts I would raise to try and knock out KQ/KJ/Ax hands to increase my chances of winning if I hit a top pair hand on the turn (Plus I've got the flush draw and I'm definitely not putting Fnord on a set).
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