Some 2/4 hands

ClaytonN · #1 04-28-2005, 12:24 AM

Only the first hand has actual reads. Rest are unknown players in a typical 40% to the flop 2/4 PS game.

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1) CO is calling station

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls, MP1 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, CO checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (4.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB bets, CO calls, Hero raises, BB folds, MP1 folds, CO calls.

River: (8.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets, CO calls.

Final Pot: 10.25 BB

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2) This guy was a relative unknown

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP1 raises, 3 folds, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls.

River: (7.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 9.25 BB

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3) Bet/fold the turn?

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $2.
Hero raises, 5 folds, CO (poster) calls, 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets, BB folds, Hero calls.

River: (7.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

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4) Seemed right

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP1 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, Button calls, 2 folds, MP1 calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, Button calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, Button calls, MP1 calls.

River: (8.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, Button folds, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: 9.25 BB

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5) Bet the river?

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (7 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP1 calls, 3 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG folds, MP1 calls, SB calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, SB folds.

River: (5.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks.

Final Pot: 5.50 BB

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6) Bet this river, too?

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, MP3 calls, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, MP3 calls, BB calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, MP3 calls, BB folds.

River: (6.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks.

Final Pot: 6.75 BB

btspider · #2 04-28-2005, 12:30 AM

1. meh, bet flop if rainbow or bd flush draw. sometimes i bet this, sometimes i don't.
2. don't bet riv.
5. bet riv.

didn't read the rest.

Shillx · #3 04-28-2005, 12:33 AM

I read hand two, and it was ugly. [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img] At least the river bet was.

Brad

ClaytonN · #4 04-28-2005, 12:36 AM

Hand two is clearly the ugliest, I'll give you that. I should have checked the river, since he'd only call with better hands.

Cept he did not [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

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didn't read the rest.

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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] ok

MrWookie47 · #5 04-28-2005, 12:40 AM

In the dark.

Hand 1: I probably bet the flop here, but I can see checking.

Hand 2: Check behind that river. He's not going to call with something you beat.

Hand 3: If you have a read on CO as Bluffy the vampire slayer, check/calling down is probably better than bet/fold. Otherwise, bet fold is probably better.

Hand 4: A-OK.

Hand 5: That was probably a missed bet on the river. You would have heard about a 3 on the turn, and if he has 64 or 86, give him a pat on the back.

Hand 6: I think that's a good river check. You'll get shown a weak A if you're called more often than not.

MrWookie47 · #6 04-28-2005, 12:41 AM

He called with a worse hand? Wow. You get an A for table selection.

SteveL91 · #7 04-28-2005, 12:42 AM

Hand 1: I've been trying to stop autobetting when I raise PF, but I think I'd still bet this flop when it's checked to me.

Hand 2: I'm not betting the river.

Hand 3: Against an unknown, I think this is okay, but I think a case could be made for checking and bet/folding. I may have bet the turn, but I don't know that I'd be able to fold against an unknown; I just see too many people willing to try bluffing when the board pairs for me to auto-fold.

Hand 4: I think this is fine.

Hand 5: Bet the river.

Hand 6: I dunno. I think I probably bet the river most of the time and check the other times.

UncleSalty · #8 04-28-2005, 12:47 AM

[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img](In the dark)

Hand 1:
Pre-Flop: Duh, g00t.
Flop: Why aren't you betting for value here? Even with 3 opponents it seems unlikely this board hit anyone, and flush draws aren't folding anyway.
Turn & River: Perfect play against a calling station.

Hand 2:
I'm not sure how else you can play this against an unknown. Against a LAP I might just check/call the river thinking he might have caught a nine or ten. Then again, Mr. Wookie might call me a kitten killer.

Hand 3:
No reads makes this tough, but I think I'd c/r the turn and fold to a 3-bet. It costs 2BB, but you have some FE with the scare card, and check/calling here will cost you 2 BB if you're going to call down the river anyway.

Hand 4: Looks good.

Hand 5: I'd bet the river. Villain will have A high here or a lower pair plenty of times.

Hand 6: This one's close, but I think I'm check/calling here. Could be a busted flush draw, but might be a weak A. A bet here just folds the hands you already beat and costs you an extra bet when you're behind.

btspider · #9 04-28-2005, 12:50 AM

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Hand 2:
I'm not sure how else you can play this against an unknown. Against a LAP I might just check/call the river thinking he might have caught a nine or ten. Then again, Mr. Wookie might call me a kitten killer.

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Hero has position (can't cc).

A possible alternative would be to check the turn and call a river bet. This is good if the opponent is fairly aggro.

UncleSalty · #10 04-28-2005, 12:53 AM

Oops. Missed that. I think I'd check it through.

Edit: Who is Jack, and what's with you and Alobar's cryptic reference to him?