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#1
04-27-2005, 01:17 PM
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Too passive with 88?
BB is LAGgy (35 vpip); MP2 and CO are ~20/8 types.
Party $5/$10 Bad Beat Jackpot Hero is UTG+2 with 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 folds, <font color="red"> Hero calls </font> , 1 fold, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB checks. (5 players) Flop: Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5.5 SB) BB bets, Hero folds... Thoughts on a pre-flop raise from UTG+2 and the raise vs. fold flop decision with BB leading and 3 players behind Hero. 
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#2
04-27-2005, 01:34 PM
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Re: Too passive with 88?
maybe a little, i would have called on the flop and if I did not improve on the turn I would fold
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#3
04-27-2005, 01:36 PM
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Re: Too passive with 88?
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maybe a little, i would have called on the flop and if I did not improve on the turn I would fold [/ QUOTE ] The only reason to call the flop would be to raise a non-A/K turn card. You're not getting odds to draw. OP - Against a LAGgy BB, i'm raising this and getting to showdown (unless there's a caller/3-bettor behind me) -d
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#4
04-27-2005, 01:38 PM
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Re: Too passive with 88?
Are there any cards on the turn besides another 8 that would be improving on the turn? Or another diamond? The backdoor flush does not seem like it would be good enough times and as far as I can tell he does not have the odds to try and hit a set on the turn. At lease I don't think he does.
I am always confused on these situations where someone with a middle PP says they should call the turn and fold UI. Help me out here if I am missing something.
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#7
04-27-2005, 02:41 PM
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Re: Too passive with 88?
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I don't know...on a Q22 flop and a 3BB pot I don't see how folding is wrong. [/ QUOTE ] i understand the pot is small, but I see there being a good possibility of us having the best hand at the moment, do you really wanna give this pot up that easily.
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#8
04-27-2005, 02:55 PM
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Re: Too passive with 88?
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i understand the pot is small, but I see there being a good possibility of us having the best hand at the moment, do you really wanna give this pot up that easily. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah...I really don't mind folding. I don't know...my gut feel is hero's ahead maybe ~40% of the time here and wins the pot maybe half of that. Too conservative you think?
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#9
04-27-2005, 02:58 PM
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Re: Too passive with 88?
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[ QUOTE ] i understand the pot is small, but I see there being a good possibility of us having the best hand at the moment, do you really wanna give this pot up that easily. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah...I really don't mind folding. I don't know...my gut feel is hero's ahead maybe ~40% of the time here and wins the pot maybe half of that. Too conservative you think? [/ QUOTE ] the more I think about this, the more I see your point, I don't know if I will fold, but in the long run, I don't see this either play being a big deal on our bottom line.
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#10
04-27-2005, 03:01 PM
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Re: Too passive with 88?
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[ QUOTE ] I don't know...on a Q22 flop and a 3BB pot I don't see how folding is wrong. [/ QUOTE ] i understand the pot is small, but I see there being a good possibility of us having the best hand at the moment, do you really wanna give this pot up that easily. [/ QUOTE ] there's very little in the pot, 88 has 2 outs if behind, and anyone that wants to come along has outs
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