JJ with a ton of raises.

bonaparte · #1 04-25-2005, 12:02 AM

What should I have done with this?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP2 posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP2 (poster) checks, 1 fold, CO calls, Button raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, UTG folds, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls, CO raises, Button calls, Hero 3-bets, MP2 calls, CO caps, Button calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (14.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO bets, Button folds, Hero raises, MP2 calls, CO 3-bets, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

River: (23.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, CO raises, Hero calls, MP2 3-bets, CO calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 32.75 BB

Thanks for the help.

istewart · #2 04-25-2005, 12:04 AM

Turn action is no g00t dude. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] After CO fully wakes up into two PFRs on the flop it's time to slow.

milesdyson · #3 04-25-2005, 12:05 AM

Preflop is good.

When you're capped by CO on the flop, you are behind. Stop putting bets into the pot.

So whatever, you check raised the turn but had odds to spike a J on the river when you called that 3-bet.

Then, you don't get the J on the river, and MP2 wakes up with a straight, CO still raises him with a set, and you call two cold with a measly pair. Then MP2 3-bets the nuts and you call again.

MP2 has 76 and CO has 88.

ArturiusX · #4 04-25-2005, 12:07 AM

You went way to hard with this hand.

Preflop: good

Flop: CO woke up after being raised behind; this is troubling. I 3-bet but after that cap I start shivering.

Turn: I can't think of a worse place to check-raise to be honest, why did you do it? Call him down.

River: Fold with 2 back to you.

CO hit his set, MP2 hit his straight. An overpair is not going to win this pot.

ArturiusX · #5 04-25-2005, 12:07 AM

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MP2 has 76 and CO has 88.

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GrunchCan · #6 04-25-2005, 12:24 AM

I disagree with the collective sentiment that you should call down after CO caps the flop. But let's forget about that for a moment. Let's look at what you were trying to achieve on the turn, and compare that to how you tried to go about it.

You were probably thinking one of 2 things on the turn: A) I have the best hand and want maximum value, or B) I think I might not have te best hand, so I'll represent an even better hand to scare my opponent in to folding.

In either case, CRing the turn is wrong.

If you had the best hand, you should bet. PF, the opponent showed a complete willingness to give all the action you could eat. You don't have to resort to any trickery to extract the maximum from him. ABC poker will do just fine. Bet & raise. In fact, CRing has a good chance of slowing the opponent down if you are ahead - which is exactly not what you want. So CRing is bad if you are CRing for value.

If you are behind, CRing won't get the opponent off his hand. The pot is so big, he would be correct to call with virtually any 2 cards.

aK13 · #7 04-25-2005, 12:26 AM

Folding the river to 2 bets is OK I think...probably behind a set + straight. I also check/call the turn.

cmwck · #8 04-25-2005, 01:00 AM

I would lead the turn and call down if raised again.
edit: whoops, didnt notice the flop aggressor wasnt the original preflop raiser.
check-call the turn

xenthebrain · #9 04-25-2005, 10:27 AM

I call down from the turn on.

davelin · #10 04-25-2005, 10:50 AM

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I disagree with the collective sentiment that you should call down after CO caps the flop.

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I'm going to disagree with you here bro. The post-flop aggressor isn't the pre-flop aggressor.