Winning Player

[imported_excel]

Firstly, Im starting afresh, no arguing with any posters, and sorry if I offenended posters in the past.

Secondly, if you dont like the subject of my posts, please dont read or leave dumb comments.
Thankyou.


Im not saying this is the way to play, Im just highlighting its not a losing way of playing, theres a few players with high vpip combined with high pfr who I believe are long term winners


The player I highlight below is the extreme and also one of the best.

Player always 4 tables, and can play for many hours.


$15/$30
Hands 83,797
VP$IP 51.78
VP$IP SB 67.29
Saw Flop all hands 49.97
Saw Flop not a blind 40.16
Folded SB to steal 49.57
Folded BB to steal 29.29
Folded BB to steal HU 23.01
Att to steal blinds 69.81
Won $ when saw flop 42.97
BB/100 2.48
Went to showdown 42.06
Won $ at SD 48.41
Raised preflop 41.01
Folded to river bet 40.64
Check raise 3.56


80k hands is a very good hand sample, hes more than a marginal winner.

Any comments, rather than dismissing as short term luck.

[Trix]

sort for 5-6 players, else it´s very hard to compare these stats as people dont play the same ammount of real short-handed.

[JohnnyHumongous]

I personally think a higher VPIP is more profitable in many cases (my VPIP at 6-max is north of 30), but I have to say this is the most blatant example of selection bias I have ever seen. Anyone who has studied statistics or econometrics can see this. You are selecting one person who has succeeded using a massively high VPIP. However, the fact is that if you took a field of say 1,000 players today who all play with VPIP of 50 at 15/30 the percentage that succeed 80K hands later will be VERY small. But, there will be a few; this is just probabilistic distribution. You have found those few and are now backwards-justifying their wins.

I heard about a guy who made like $17 million playing casino games (you know, house edge-type games that are "foolish" to selective gamblers like we try to be). This guy was walking around Vegas with beautiful Rolexes. He went flat broke eventually. Out of all the millions of gamblers who go to casinos, probabilistic distribution dictates that some of them will outrun the averages for a VERY long time and make massive money. But it proves nothing. They are playing -EV games pure and simple.

[JohnnyHumongous]

And yes, you should sort for 5 or 6 players because who knows if this guy is one of the heads-up specialists on Party who go around looking for 2- or 3-way games, in which case his VPIP is obviously going to be high.

[Danenania]

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sort for 5-6 players, else it´s very hard to compare these stats as people dont play the same ammount of real short-handed.

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Agree. These stats could be great for someone playing primarily heads-up/3-handed but it seems nearly impossible that they could make money in a 6-handed game.

[MoDOH]

How is this possible?

VP$IP 51.78

Saw Flop all hands 49.97

[ALL1N]

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How is this possible?

VP$IP 51.78

Saw Flop all hands 49.97

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How about you raise and steal the blinds? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[MoDOH]

which leads me to believe these hands are from HU or 3-handed games rather than full 6-max tables.

[imported_excel]

The games are from Party $15/$30

3 games, always a queue waiting to join so very few 3-4 handed games,

When 6 players at a table he plays 40.99% vpip and pfr 40.86%

75,000 of the hands are with 5 or more players

No advantage of table selection, even when playing $10/$20 never tables swaps.

If other players cant adapt to this style then maybe it is profitable.

Also, he wins when he has nothing when also the other players have nothing, you cant bluff this player,

What are the advantages of this playing style?

[Kimpan]

possible to post some of the hands that are "loose"?