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Old 04-24-2005, 04:25 AM
reubenf reubenf is offline
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Default call call call call calling all the way

Both SB and UTG+1 are very passive. It really felt bad calling all the way.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (8 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(8 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, MP1 folds, MP3 calls, Hero calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (9 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls, Button calls, SB calls.

River: (14 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP3 folds, Hero calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Final Pot: 18 BB
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Old 04-24-2005, 04:29 AM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: call call call call calling all the way

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I might raise this preflop, I am 100% no doubt about it raising this flop. I hit the flop super hard and I want to pump the shit out of it.

If I feel awesome I may take a free card on the turn, but maybe I wouldn't. Since you haven't found a raise the whole hand I agree with just calling the river.
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Old 04-24-2005, 04:41 AM
reubenf reubenf is offline
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Default Re: call call call call calling all the way

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I am 100% no doubt about it raising this flop.

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Okay, that's fair. I was certain TPNK was not going to win this hand--it's almost certainly behind UTG+1 and probably behind SB--but failed to consider my chances of improving to two pair or trips. At the time I felt my flop edge vanished if Button folded. In retrospect, I don't think it does, and even if it does if button folds I may get a free card.
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Old 04-24-2005, 04:58 AM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: call call call call calling all the way

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I am 100% no doubt about it raising this flop.

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Okay, that's fair. I was certain TPNK was not going to win this hand--it's almost certainly behind UTG+1 and probably behind SB--but failed to consider my chances of improving to two pair or trips. At the time I felt my flop edge vanished if Button folded. In retrospect, I don't think it does, and even if it does if button folds I may get a free card.

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This is your equity heads up with AK on the flop. With anyone caught between, this is a raise for value.

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Ac 7c 444 44.85 534 53.94 12 1.21 0.455
Ks Ad 534 53.94 444 44.85 12 1.21 0.545
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Old 04-24-2005, 05:07 AM
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Default Re: call call call call calling all the way

I would have limped PF like you did. I would have 3 Bet the flop, and then called the turn, unless it looks 4 way again, then I would raise that too. I would raise the river also, your 2 pair is almost assuredly good here, and any ace will call you.

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Old 04-24-2005, 05:15 AM
cmwck cmwck is offline
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Default Re: call call call call calling all the way

On the flop with 12 outs your equity is ~45%. Easy 3-bet.
Again, on the turn, your equity is now ~26% so you could raise if you had a reason to think at least one player would coldcall behind you.
I like calling the river.
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