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04-22-2005, 10:01 AM
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AQ & AJ in EP/MP
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Do you raise AQ & AJ in EP/MP or limp? How about UTG? Does it matter to you whether there are limpers ahead of you or LAGs behind? Do you always fold these hands to a raise, or do you consider that position/game dependent as well? How about to a min-raise? I ask because I play these hands very aggressively from all positions and it's losing me money. I'm constantly ending up with very difficult situations like TPTK out of position facing a big raise after a pot-size bet. Anybody have another way of doing this? 
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#2
04-22-2005, 10:15 AM
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Re: AQ & AJ in EP/MP
AQ and AJo are by no means big hands.
You should read what Doyle Brunson says about them in SS/2. They are troublesome hands that, even if you hit, can leave you way behind. Calling an EP raise when you are in MP is not a great idea. Obviously they are not re-raiseable. These are examples of hands that you really want to see the flop as cheaply as possible. This changes whent eh table is short-handed or playing 6-max. There these hands do go up in value.
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#3
04-22-2005, 10:25 AM
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Re: AQ & AJ in EP/MP
Literally as I was reading this, I was dealt AJs UTG and limped. It was folded to the BB, who checked. Flop was A84 rainbow and he bets the pot. I call, trying to keep the pot small. Turn is a J, there are now two hearts on the board. He bets the pot again...I call (should've raised I know I know). The river is a 4. He bets the bot again, and I lose to 84 that boated on the river.
I understand that the above example is bad play on the turn by me. But, this is also why I have been raising AJ, to keep crappy hands from hitting two pair or draws from the blinds.
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#5
04-22-2005, 10:48 AM
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Re: AQ & AJ in EP/MP
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[ QUOTE ] I was dealt AJs UTG and limped. [/ QUOTE ] There is a BIG differance between suited and unsuited in these hands. [/ QUOTE ] I'd venture to say that the difference is not as big as you think it is. At a 10-max table, I'm folding AJ (sooooted, or not) just about every time I get it. Regards, Mike L.
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#7
04-22-2005, 11:05 AM
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Re: AQ & AJ in EP/MP
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If you're folding AJs from LP in unraised pots, you are giving up a lot of value. [/ QUOTE ] He said "UTG." That is EP, not LP. I'll limp AJ from late. Regards, Mike L.
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#9
04-22-2005, 11:15 AM
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Re: AQ & AJ in EP/MP
I usually fold AJo from EP, and limp with AJs and AQ. Occasionally I will raise with AQ in EP, but I think I too often run into the type of problems you are having when I do that.
If someone raises behind me, it depends on what I think of the person, their position, size of the raise, etc.--but if they're sooted I am more inclined to call.
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#10
04-22-2005, 05:11 PM
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Re: AQ & AJ in EP/MP
[ QUOTE ]
Commence barrage of questions: Do you raise AQ & AJ in EP/MP or limp? How about UTG? Does it matter to you whether there are limpers ahead of you or LAGs behind? Do you always fold these hands to a raise, or do you consider that position/game dependent as well? How about to a min-raise? I ask because I play these hands very aggressively from all positions and it's losing me money. I'm constantly ending up with very difficult situations like TPTK out of position facing a big raise after a pot-size bet. Anybody have another way of doing this? [/ QUOTE ] These hands need to be played dynamically (player depedent, table dependent, position dependent, etc). I started loosing a lot less money with them when I realized that I'm not playing them for top-pair value. I want top two, a big straight draw, top pair with flush draw, etc. Hitting top pair with AJo when I'm OOP is "missing the flop" in my book. In EP/MP I fold to a tight raiser, call to an avg player, re-raise a total LAG and limp or raise in an unraised pot depending on the texture of the table and my table image. (note: I'm talking full ring).
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