10-20 with jacks

bleu329 · #1 04-22-2005, 01:35 AM

$10/$20 NL on Full Tilt - 7 handed

Hero is UTG with J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] with about $2000
UTG+1 has Hero covered

Hero raises to $75
UTG+1 calls
folded around
POT: $180

flop: T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero bets $120
UTG+1 raises to $360

is this a raise or fold situation? UTG+1 is capable of making plays/raising with draws, but he would also raise with a set.

xorbie · #2 04-22-2005, 02:55 AM

I would pop it back. $900 or so. It's a draw heavy board, and if he will do this with both a draw and a set, it's still more likely he has a draw (two spades, any 8). He also might just think you are making a continuation bet with missed AK.

freemoney · #3 04-22-2005, 03:00 AM

and when he pushes you call right? popping it back just seems like the best way to lose your stack or let him get off easily.

PoBoy321 · #4 04-22-2005, 03:06 AM

I think that this isn't a bad spot for a stop and go.

Call the raise, lead a safe turn, fold if he pops it again.

xorbie · #5 04-22-2005, 03:32 AM

What's a safe turn? Not a 6, J, spade, or any card higher than jack because this guy could be playing suited broadways. I'm not really liking a line where you put money in only to check/fold 50% of the time.

flawless_victory · #6 04-22-2005, 03:34 AM

id fold and move on to the next hand... way too likely he has set.

PoBoy321 · #7 04-22-2005, 03:43 AM

Good point. I'm tired. Goodnight.

creedofhubris · #8 04-22-2005, 04:30 AM

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id fold and move on to the next hand... way too likely he has set.

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Or bigger pair.

bleu329 · #9 04-22-2005, 05:32 AM

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I would pop it back. $900 or so. It's a draw heavy board, and if he will do this with both a draw and a set, it's still more likely he has a draw (two spades, any 8). He also might just think you are making a continuation bet with missed AK.

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You are in line with what I was thinking.

I decided to reraise him to $850.
He thought for .8 seconds and pushed me all in for my remaining ~$1150. Now what?

DaveduFresne · #10 04-22-2005, 05:51 AM

This is probably obvious, but if the guy has AK of spades or KQ of spades, his hand is a favorite over yours.

With this possibility, the possibility of a higher pair, or set, unless this guy is really bullying you, and maybe even then I would pick a better spot to "pop" someone about half of your stack.

I would fold.

David