15/30, AK turns tricks, errr, trips...

Harv72b · #1 04-21-2005, 11:51 PM

BB is a tricky TAG. No read on the button or MP3.

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (8.66 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, MP3 folds, Button calls, BB calls.

Turn: (5.83 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, Button raises, BB folds, Hero 3-bets, Button caps, Hero calls.

River: (13.83 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15.83 BB
Main Pot: 15.83 BB, between Hero and Button.

Proper place to slow down? Sooner? Later? At all?

Chris Daddy Cool · #2 04-21-2005, 11:55 PM

its fine.

holdemfan · #3 04-22-2005, 12:04 AM

Why slow down? I'm not saying don't but what would cause us to slow down? A lot of aggressive players are under the assumption that if two Aces are on the board then you don't have one and will try to push you off your KK etc. Its really hard without a read on the player. TAG? SL? Fish? I would push more with the TAG. A Slightly loose on the button could have easily played A7s or A8s so I might slow down now. A fish, I would grit my teeth and go full steam. Hard to decide with out the reads.

PokerBob · #4 04-22-2005, 12:13 AM

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BB is a tricky TAG. No read on the button or MP3.

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (8.66 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, MP3 folds, Button calls, BB calls.

Turn: (5.83 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, Button raises, BB folds, Hero 3-bets, Button caps, Hero calls.

River: (13.83 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15.83 BB
Main Pot: 15.83 BB, between Hero and Button.

Proper place to slow down? Sooner? Later? At all?

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IMO if button had a set, he would be remiss not to raise the flop, as the board is draw-heavy and he may get loads of action from that A being there. I feel like I fire again on the river and call a raise, but I'm likely dead wrong.

damaniac · #5 04-22-2005, 12:58 AM

The problem is that we've raised PF, bet the flop, bet and 3-bet the turn, and he caps, telling us "I don't care if you have a big ace." The trip aces are out for the world to see. Why would he try to "push you off KK" when your action up to and including the 3-bet indicates that you probably don't have KK. If he's a TAG, he can probably read the board and infer from the action that a big ace is likely. He's not going nuts with a weaker A unless he's a LAG. Or, rather, one wouldn't expect a TAG in this situation to do so.

Harv72b · #6 04-22-2005, 02:30 AM

Not having a read sucks. Button showed an oddly played 77, and MHING.