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Old 04-21-2005, 02:59 PM
hypermegachi hypermegachi is offline
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Default AA on a 3flush flop, against likely bluffers, call or raise?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, BB folds.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB

i didn't like raising anywhere...my read on both opponents were that they both had a flush card. one was semibluffing, and the other was calling on the draw. if i raised, it was likely i'd get 3bet because these guys are pretty aggressive, and i wouldn't feel that good calling down...

thoughts?
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Old 04-21-2005, 03:42 PM
Fabian Fabian is offline
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Default Re: AA on a 3flush flop, against likely bluffers, call or raise?

What?
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Old 04-21-2005, 05:19 PM
sy_or_bust sy_or_bust is offline
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Default Re: AA on a 3flush flop, against likely bluffers, call or raise?

Terrible logic, terrible hand. This is high among the most weak-tight hands I've ever seen.
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Old 04-21-2005, 05:23 PM
hypermegachi hypermegachi is offline
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Default Re: AA on a 3flush flop, against likely bluffers, call or raise?

point taken. where do you throw in the raise? do you call down after a 3bet?
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Old 04-21-2005, 05:25 PM
RunDownHouse RunDownHouse is offline
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Default Re: AA on a 3flush flop, against likely bluffers, call or raise?

If you just hate getting 3bet, raise the river. Less likely to happen there.

But yeah, pretty weak hand. Especially because if these guys really are donks there's a good chance they'd call two cold on the turn with a big club.
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Old 04-21-2005, 05:50 PM
Surfbullet Surfbullet is offline
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Default Re: AA on a 3flush flop, against likely bluffers, call or raise?

if these guys both have lone clubs, your equity on the turn is HUGE...raise!!!

They are donks, they'll call (or 3-bet for you!), and you'll make money on every bet going on.

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