ugh... scary AQ hand early in 2nd round... 30+3

[syphlix]

ugh... really not sure about this hand... if the Q did not come on the river i would have called this i think...

i'm not sure why i didn't raise the turn... think i was hoping to get a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on the river and have him bet into me...

i think i played this REALLY weak... confirm or not please?

NL Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:11493074 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Thursday, April 21, 12:30:37 EDT 2005

Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: pdabaseball ( $1585 )
Seat 2: niwotyalpi ( $800 )
Seat 4: Juicebx ( $1595 )
Seat 7: wcnelson ( $705 )
Seat 9: hot_bull_24 ( $540 )
Seat 6: RakeMeBaby ( $760 )
Seat 5: DaveMaly ( $840 )
Seat 3: starter333 ( $125 )
Seat 8: cobol22 ( $1050 )
Trny:11493074 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RakeMeBaby [ As Qh ]
pdabaseball folds.
niwotyalpi folds.
starter333 folds.
Juicebx calls [30].
DaveMaly folds.
RakeMeBaby calls [30].
wcnelson folds.
cobol22 calls [15].
hot_bull_24 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, 8s, Kh ]
cobol22 checks.
hot_bull_24 checks.
Juicebx checks.
RakeMeBaby checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ah ]
cobol22 checks.
hot_bull_24 checks.
Juicebx bets [150].
RakeMeBaby calls [150].
cobol22 folds.
hot_bull_24 folds.
** Dealing River ** [ Qd ]
Juicebx is all-In [1415]
RakeMeBaby folds.
Juicebx does not show cards.
Juicebx wins 1835 chips

[zambonidrivr]

yes, i'd say you need to find a new game. u really needed to raise preflop to figure out where you stand and define your hand. what did you put him on? tough lay down man.

[Benholio]

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yes, i'd say you need to find a new game. u really needed to raise preflop to figure out where you stand and define your hand. what did you put him on? tough lay down man.

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If you need to tell someone they need to find a new game, you need to read up on SNG strategy first. Limping AQo in late position in level 1/2 is pretty standard here.

There isn't a lot of raising "to find out where you stand" in the early levels of a SNG. Weak-tight is a good thing at this stage.

I think you played the hand fine. I wouldn't call that huge overbet when the 4-straight hits. Actually, overbetting the pot all-in is exactly what I'd do if I held the jack myself, because people will often call without the straight. Don't be one of those people. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[syphlix]

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yes, i'd say you need to find a new game.

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ummm... ok... thanks...

[pooh74]

agree with benny boy here, dont think you played it that badly at all...I think there are arguments for both limping or raising pf there both of which are valid. However, the hand itself played out badly but you didnt lose much in the process...not bad.

[syphlix]

what about the turn play?... calling the 150?...

i'm not sure i would ever call that river bet no matter what anyone said... but do you think the call is ok?... or should i have been raising there?...

[Newt_Buggs]

I would have raised pf and on the turn, but I think the way you played it is just fine. I hate giving free cards by just calling on the turn, but traping yourself with a raise and getting reraised on tbe turn would be really bad.

[pooh74]

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what about the turn play?... calling the 150?...

i'm not sure i would ever call that river bet no matter what anyone said... but do you think the call is ok?... or should i have been raising there?...

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I would say to myself on the turn, "either I raise all in here, or I call and with a intentions of calling a push/pushing the river if anything but a Q falls" lol...I would only call the turn with a plan to get in on the river...unfortunately an awful card fell...you showed good discipline, but now you're a bit short.