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Old 04-19-2005, 02:14 PM
jah0550 jah0550 is offline
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Default 99...now what?

This was a $50 SNG. After the flop, I figured that I probably had the best hand. Since the turn was a blank, was it correct to push or should I have folded a long time ago, ie. when the SB bet on the flop? I called his flop bet with the intention of bluffing on the turn. Sort of a "slow and go." Does anyone else play this hand the way that I did? Who could put the villian on what he had, because I guarantee that no one will be able to put him on the hand that he had.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter

MP3 (t825)
CO (t745)
Hero (t745)
SB (t770)
BB (t675)
UTG (t1040)
UTG+1 (t745)
MP1 (t1600)
MP2 (t855)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t30, UTG+1 calls t30, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls t30, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t30, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t60</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t30, MP3 calls t30, Hero calls t30.

Flop: (t285) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t150</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP3 folds, Hero calls t150.

Turn: (t585) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t225</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t450</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t465 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls t15.

River: (t1515) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t1515

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Ks Kh (one pair, kings).
Hero has 9d 9h (one pair, nines).
Outcome: BB wins t1515. </font>
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Old 04-19-2005, 02:18 PM
jah0550 jah0550 is offline
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Default Re: 99...now what?

Who the hell min raises on level II with KK with 3 limpers already in the pot. Not to mention that he was way out of position. It is amazing at the level of play at the $50s. I just hope to run into this idiot again!
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Old 04-19-2005, 02:19 PM
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Default Re: 99...now what?

The villian's name was eightP if anyone cares.
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Old 04-19-2005, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: 99...now what?

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Who the hell min raises on level II with KK with 3 limpers already in the pot. Not to mention that he was way out of position. It is amazing at the level of play at the $50s. I just hope to run into this idiot again!

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Is this sarcastic? You played the hand horribly, fold on the flop.
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Old 04-19-2005, 02:21 PM
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Default Re: 99...now what?

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Who could put the villian on what he had, because I guarantee that no one will be able to put him on the hand that he had.

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What makes you think he didn't have some sort of Tx, JJ-AA, 55, 33 here? All of those hands have been mini-raised by players at the 55's. He bet the flop/turn and yet you still raised the turn where he'd most likely not be able to fold even with overs. If you were thinking of raising here, you should have done it on the flop, and if you were thinking of stealing this pot from him it might have been easier if you acted first where you could check/call the flop bet, and bet the turn. Or check/raise the flop instead. I'm going to post this and edit in a sec when I find a perfect hand like this to show you how to play this instead if you really did think you had the best hand.

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#Game No : 1917838867
***** Hand History for Game 1917838867 *****
NL Hold'em $1000 Buy-in + $65 Entry Fee Trny:11433665 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Tuesday, April 19, 05:46:11 EDT 2005
Table Step 5 #983811 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: Who100 ( $1135 )
Seat 2: NoLimit ( $1115 )
Seat 3: ViK18 ( $1560 )
Seat 8: goodLgirl ( $870 )
Seat 4: Kogen ( $1135 )
Seat 7: SwiftSteal ( $970 )
Seat 5: ZebraAss ( $830 )
Seat 10: Gregernaut ( $2385 )
Trny:11433665 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
SwiftSteal calls [30].
goodLgirl folds.
Gregernaut raises [90].
Who100 folds.
NoLimit folds.
ViK18 folds.
Kogen folds.
ZebraAss folds.
SwiftSteal calls [60].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jc, 5s, 6s ]
SwiftSteal checks.
Gregernaut bets [150].
SwiftSteal calls [150].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3d ]
SwiftSteal bets [275].
Gregernaut raises [550].
SwiftSteal calls [275].
** Dealing River ** [ 8s ]
SwiftSteal is all-In [180]
Gregernaut calls [180].
SwiftSteal shows [ 8c, 8h ] three of a kind, eights.
Gregernaut shows [ Kc, Kh ] a pair of kings.
SwiftSteal wins 1985 chips from the main pot with three of a kind, eights.
Game #1917841159 starts.

Here's the comment next hand:

SwiftSteal: guess i was wrong, lol
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Old 04-19-2005, 02:34 PM
Misfire Misfire is offline
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Default Re: 99...now what?

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Who the hell min raises on level II with KK with 3 limpers already in the pot. Not to mention that he was way out of position. It is amazing at the level of play at the $50s. I just hope to run into this idiot again!

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Is this sarcastic? You played the hand horribly, fold on the flop.

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It is amazing at the level of play at the $50s.

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Old 04-19-2005, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: 99...now what?

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I'm going to post this and edit in a sec when I find a perfect hand like this to show you how to play this instead if you really did think you had the best hand.

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What makes the hand you posted significantly different from the OP?
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Old 04-19-2005, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: 99...now what?

Sort of a "slow and go." Does anyone else play this hand the way that I did?

yeah...villain.
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Old 04-19-2005, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: 99...now what?

Look at the min raise from the BB pre-flop. What does that tell you? AK? No. JJ or QQ? No. AA or KK? Yep.

With the pre-flop min raise and betting half the pot on the flop with a pretty low board screams AA or KK.

This should be an easy fold on the flop.
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Old 04-19-2005, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: 99...now what?

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I'm going to post this and edit in a sec when I find a perfect hand like this to show you how to play this instead if you really did think you had the best hand.

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What makes the hand you posted significantly different from the OP?

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SwiftSteal = very good player who put opponent on high cards, or some sort of missed hand where his PP was the best hand (even with the over on board). Forget about the results in the hand and that he got lucky at the river.

He was in another position though which would accomplish the OP's wishes easier in this situation (IMHO) than being last to act here.



From OP: "This was a $50 SNG. After the flop, I figured that I probably had the best hand. Since the turn was a blank, was it correct to push or should I have folded a long time ago, ie. when the SB bet on the flop? I called his flop bet with the intention of bluffing on the turn. Sort of a "slow and go." Does anyone else play this hand the way that I did? Who could put the villian on what he had, because I guarantee that no one will be able to put him on the hand that he had."
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