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Old 04-16-2005, 03:19 PM
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Default Evil Flop part deux

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $3.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (9 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP2 calls, Hero is not liking that flop.....
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Old 04-16-2005, 03:22 PM
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Default Re: Evil Flop part deux

BB is 17/0/3 over 60 hands
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Old 04-16-2005, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: Evil Flop part deux

This is a tough one and it is a raise or fold situation. There are so many cards that hurt you on the turn or river that folding would not be a mistake IMO
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Old 04-16-2005, 03:37 PM
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Default Re: Evil Flop part deux

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This is a tough one and it is a raise or fold situation. There are so many cards that hurt you on the turn or river that folding would not be a mistake IMO

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I think folding would be a huge mistake. Hero has TP/TK and position on two players. BB's stats suggest that he could certainly be making a play with an OESD or MP. Consequently, I would raise.
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Old 04-16-2005, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: Evil Flop part deux

Im currently wavering between raising the flop, and raising a safe turn card.

I could go either way.
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Old 04-16-2005, 03:44 PM
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Default Re: Evil Flop part deux

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Im currently wavering between raising the flop, and raising a safe turn card.

I could go either way.

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There's no guarantee that BB is going to bet the turn, especially since he will have been called by both players on the flop.
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Old 04-16-2005, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: Evil Flop part deux

BB isn't betting into the preflop raiser (hero) with a made straight. Raise the flop and see what develops on the turn.
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Old 04-16-2005, 03:50 PM
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BB isn't betting into the preflop raiser (hero) with a made straight. Raise the flop and see what develops on the turn.

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FWIW, I bet a made straight here like 100% of the time.
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Old 04-16-2005, 03:56 PM
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BB isn't betting into the preflop raiser (hero) with a made straight. Raise the flop and see what develops on the turn.

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FWIW, I bet a made straight here like 100% of the time.

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FWIW, the BB could have lots of hands that crush us...but I'm raising the flop anyway.
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Old 04-16-2005, 03:58 PM
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Default Re: Evil Flop part deux

With a rainbow flop, I tend to want to wait till the turn to show strength (at the very least checkraise the flop). I know fast playing is the new slowplay, and perhaps I should change my tendencies in that situation.
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