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Old 04-15-2005, 05:28 AM
Phoenix1010 Phoenix1010 is offline
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Default Small blind, short stack, ITM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (3 handed) converter

Button (t5585)
Hero (t805)
BB (t1610)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero?

Push or fold, and why?
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Old 04-15-2005, 05:49 AM
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Default Re: Small blind, short stack, ITM

Push. The only position that you have significant FE is in the SB. If you concede this one your position three hands from now will be weaker. If you push, BB can call only if he is willing to swap places with you, chipwise.

JMO, and it's not an expert one.

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Old 04-15-2005, 05:58 AM
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Default Re: Small blind, short stack, ITM

standard push, i believe.
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Old 04-15-2005, 09:32 AM
Aces 'n Eights Aces 'n Eights is offline
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I have to disagree with the other 2 replys. I would fold here. The "average" hand is Q7. You are WELL below that. Knowing that your "desperate" if the BB has any kind of a hand, you will get called and be way behind. You've got 2 more chances to get a better hand than 93o to make your stand with.

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Old 04-15-2005, 09:48 AM
GtrHtr GtrHtr is offline
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Default Re: Small blind, short stack, ITM

Push. This, to my thinking, is worth trying to steal when the button folds. If you get called, oh well.

The only question I would have is if the BB has been defending his blinds to this point. You should have a pretty good feel for his play in these situations by now and should know how to play this from your read.
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Old 04-15-2005, 10:46 AM
Aces 'n Eights Aces 'n Eights is offline
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Default Re: Small blind, short stack, ITM

Forgot to add this to my last reply. Here's a chart that was created that shows the expected value of every single hand against a "random hand"

http://www.jazbo.com/poker/huholdem.html
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Old 04-15-2005, 10:56 AM
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Default Re: Small blind, short stack, ITM

[ QUOTE ]
I have to disagree with the other 2 replys. I would fold here. The "average" hand is Q7. You are WELL below that. Knowing that your "desperate" if the BB has any kind of a hand, you will get called and be way behind. You've got 2 more chances to get a better hand than 93o to make your stand with.

A8

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I don't think your hand is a consideration here (well, it is but it's not much). If BB is a good player, he won't call with "any kind of hand" like QJ or 22 simply because of his chip position. He's only got 2x more chips than hero, 1 double up will put him in the short stack. As someone said earlier, BB will only call if he's willing to switch chip positions with you.
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Old 04-15-2005, 10:59 AM
GtrHtr GtrHtr is offline
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Could you explain why you think your hand matters at this point?
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Old 04-15-2005, 11:05 AM
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If I was BB her and you pushed, I'd see it as an attempt to steal and I would put you all in unless I had a really bad hand.
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Old 04-15-2005, 11:07 AM
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If I was BB her and you pushed, I'd see it as an attempt to steal and I would put you all in unless I had a really bad hand.

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Are you willing to become the short stack with a hand like KT or QJ, which isn't a "really bad hand"?
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