Preflop Pop Quiz:

[Zoelef]

My play at UB recently is like watching a cow give birth to siamese twins, so I'm taking some downtime and rereading SSHE (again) before I tilt off any more than I already have.

For the last session I pulled a bison and mentally sounded off what I'm doing and why However, since most of the postflop stuff was rather automatic when I looked over it, I went back to my preflop list and began questioning if anything of my judgements were poor...

SemiLoose-Neutral Tables, ~35% to flop, ~5-6BB pots average
Edit: Full-Ring Tables, usually 9-10 handed

Preflop Decisions:
01.) 5 limpers to you: ATo on button
02.) MP1 Raises, 1 coldcall: JJ in CO
03.) AJs UTG
04.) MP2 Raise, MP3 Reraises, JJ in CO
05.) 3 Limpers + SB; QJo in BB
06.) 99 UTG
07.) 2 Limpers; Q9o in SB
08.) Folded to you: 33 on Button
09.) 1 Limper: QTo in MP1
10.) 1 Limper, SB folds: KJo in BB
11.) UTG+1 Raises: AQo in UTG+2
12.) UTG+1 Raises: 99 in SB
13.) MP3 Raises, SB Calls: A4o in BB

[Shillx]

01.) 5 limpers to you: ATo on button
02.) MP1 Raises, 1 coldcall: JJ in CO
03.) AJs UTG
04.) MP2 Raise, MP3 Reraises, JJ in CO
05.) 3 Limpers + SB; QJo in BB
06.) 99 UTG
07.) 2 Limpers; Q9o in SB
08.) Folded to you: 33 on Button
09.) 1 Limper: QTo in MP1
10.) 1 Limper, SB folds: KJo in BB
11.) UTG+1 Raises: AQo in UTG+2
12.) UTG+1 Raises: 99 in SB
13.) MP3 Raises, SB Calls: A4o in BB



1) Call
2) Reraise
3) Raise
4) Coldcall for information
5) Check
6) Call/Raise mix, right now I'm 2:1 Raise to call.
7) Complete. Fold if BB raises.
8) Fold.
9) Fold.
10) Depends where limper is. Probably raise though.
11) Fold.
12) Call if BB is loose. You are getting 4.5:1.5 so you need to make up 6.75 SB if you only play for set value (and you won't always play just for set value of course). This is a reasonable amount to make up imo. I'd probably reraise with a tight BB and play my hand for what it is.
13) Fold. A4 in this spot isn't a very good hand. I'd much rather see K9 or QJ.

Brad

[btspider]

01.) 5 limpers to you: ATo on button
call

02.) MP1 Raises, 1 coldcall: JJ in CO
easy 3-bet

03.) AJs UTG
easy raise

04.) MP2 Raise, MP3 Reraises, JJ in CO
if they were EP, i'd fold. if they have a wide PF range here, i'd cap. i don't think a fold is terrible if readless or passive read here. with other limpers, i'd either call for info or cap to get dead money in the pot.

05.) 3 Limpers + SB; QJo in BB
easy check.

06.) 99 UTG
raise or limp.

07.) 2 Limpers; Q9o in SB
eh, close. fold isn't bad w/o any reads to help you postflop. QTo is a call in a 1/2 structure.

08.) Folded to you: 33 on Button
raise or fold. reads help.

09.) 1 Limper: QTo in MP1
easy fold.

10.) 1 Limper, SB folds: KJo in BB
where's the limper? raise or check depending on reads/position.

11.) UTG+1 Raises: AQo in UTG+2
fold w/o a read

12.) UTG+1 Raises: 99 in SB
fold if he's tight. raise if he's loose, consider a call if BB is loose.

13.) MP3 Raises, SB Calls: A4o in BB
easy fold.

[Dead]

[ QUOTE ]

01.) 5 limpers to you: ATo on button
02.) MP1 Raises, 1 coldcall: JJ in CO
03.) AJs UTG
04.) MP2 Raise, MP3 Reraises, JJ in CO
05.) 3 Limpers + SB; QJo in BB
06.) 99 UTG
07.) 2 Limpers; Q9o in SB
08.) Folded to you: 33 on Button
09.) 1 Limper: QTo in MP1
10.) 1 Limper, SB folds: KJo in BB
11.) UTG+1 Raises: AQo in UTG+2
12.) UTG+1 Raises: 99 in SB
13.) MP3 Raises, SB Calls: A4o in BB

[/ QUOTE ]

1. Call
2. 3bet
3. Raise
4. Fold.
5. Check.
6. Raise
7. Fold
8. Raise
9. Fold
10. Raise
11. Fold
12. Call
13. Fold

I am open to criticism.

[InFeRn0]

1)call
2)call
3)bet
4)fold
5)check?
6)call
7)fold
8)raise
9)fold
10)check
11)call
12)call
13)fold

[TomBrooks]

SemiLoose-Neutral Tables, ~35% to flop, ~5-6BB pots average
Edit: Full-Ring Tables, usually 9-10 handed

Preflop Decisions:
01.) 5 limpers to you: ATo on button RAISE OR CALL
02.) MP1 Raises, 1 coldcall: JJ in CO RAISE
03.) AJs UTG RAISE
04.) MP2 Raise, MP3 Reraises, JJ in CO CALL
05.) 3 Limpers + SB; QJo in BB CHECK
06.) 99 UTG RAISE
07.) 2 Limpers; Q9o in SB FOLD/ 2: CALL (MARGINAL)
08.) Folded to you: 33 on Button FOLD / 2: RAISE ??
09.) 1 Limper: QTo in MP1 FOLD
10.) 1 Limper, SB folds: KJo in BB CHECK
11.) UTG+1 Raises: AQo in UTG+2 CALL ??
12.) UTG+1 Raises: 99 in SB COMPLETE
13.) MP3 Raises, SB Calls: A4o in BB FOLD

[chiachu]

oh man.. lets see how bad i can mess this up

1) fold
2) reraise
3) limp
4) reraise
5) check
6) limp
7) fold
8) fold
9) fold
10) check
11) reraise
12) fold
13) fold


and yes, i am a weak tight player [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[istewart]

In the JJ after a raise and a 3-bet hand, is MP2 open-raising?

[Yobz]

01.) 5 limpers to you: ATo on button

I would probably raise here, try to get a free card on the flop if I miss.

02.) MP1 Raises, 1 coldcall: JJ in CO

Raise, easy raise.

03.) AJs UTG

Raise

04.) MP2 Raise, MP3 Reraises, JJ in CO

If I had any read on MP2/MP3 then I would go by that...I can see fold/call/raise in this sitation, very read based. Against unknowns then I would probably fold if they bet from EP, raise if they bet from CO-1 and CO.

05.) 3 Limpers + SB; QJo in BB

Call, you have no other options

06.) 99 UTG

Raise, maybe call

07.) 2 Limpers; Q9o in SB

Fold

08.) Folded to you: 33 on Button

Raise

09.) 1 Limper: QTo in MP1

Fold

10.) 1 Limper, SB folds: KJo in BB

Any read on limper? Either call or raise, depends on reads

11.) UTG+1 Raises: AQo in UTG+2

Any reads? Fold *most* of the time, maybe throw in a call or raise if you have a read

12.) UTG+1 Raises: 99 in SB

Probably raise and then bet into him on the flop.

13.) MP3 Raises, SB Calls: A4o in BB

Fold

[Yako]

I'm gonna take a shot at this because I'm pretty satisfied with my preflop play, and so I'm sure I should get at least 80% of these right. Anyways, let the pooh-bahs correct the false info I might spread! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

1) Raise. You have position and at least 50% of those hands against you are just random garbage.
2) Reraise. Force the blinds to put more money in the pot with junk hands, and maybe they might even fold some of your overcards. Besides, once again, you have position on the raiser and coldcaller, both of which are likely to have a wide range of hands, of which only 3 are ahead of you and 2 are coinflips at this point. Don't be weak/tight!
3) Limp. You'd prefer to play this multi-way. If you raise, most of the people who will call you are likely to be ahead of you. Although at a very loose table I'm sure a case could be made for raising this.
4) I know SSHE says to fold, but I would flat-call depending on my reads. I've seen way too many people reraising on PP 0.50/1.00 with hands that shouldn't be reraised to fold this 100% of the time. Depends on your reads, although under normal circumstances it's most likely a fold.
5) Check. So many people limp with Ax, and those hands are all ahead to your QJ. Besides, you might be up against hands such as KQ and KJ that fishes don't usually raise, and those hands dominate you. As if that isn't bad enough, you're out of position.

6) I usually limp this but that's because I'm a really lousy postflop player. I've heard some of the better players on this board say that you can open-raise this, but I think it's dependant on your postflop skills.

7)I'd fold this. Way out of position, too many hands dominate you, and alot of hands start out ahead of you.

8)Raise. You've got position, and you've got a good hand to try and steal the blinds. Things get tricky if you get reraised though, but I think you should raise anyway. Make the fish pay.

9)I'd fold this. It's not a great hand

10) This is tough, but I think I just check. Read-dependant though. Against people that fold too often on the flop and after, I might raise. Against someone who always shows-down though, I think I want to see the flop before I decide what to do.

11) Fold, unless the raiser is a maniac, then reraise to isolate him.

12) I think I'd reraise this to see what happens, but this is probably a mistake. I wonder, is this a case of raise or fold?

13) FOLD!!! You're out of position with a really weak offsuit hand... Would you limp with this UTG? Then why would you play this against a raise?