Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > Mid-, High-Stakes Pot- and No-Limit Hold'em
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-08-2005, 04:34 PM
augie00 augie00 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 1
Default Stars 5/10 NL - 48s, too agressive?

Game is playing pretty loose. I'm 3-tabling, and running decently well, taking down a few pots with nothing and not getting paid off much.

Did I play this too agressively? I normally play 2/4 and recently decided to move up to 5/10.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (8 handed) converter

MP1 ($1096)
MP2 ($1190)
CO ($930)
Button ($829.75)
SB ($1353.50)
Hero ($1173.25)
UTG ($677.25)
UTG+1 ($1291)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, CO calls $10, Button calls $10, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($40) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, Button bets $60, SB calls $60, Hero raises all in to $1163
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-08-2005, 04:42 PM
LuvDemNutz LuvDemNutz is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 13
Default Re: Stars 5/10 NL - 48s, too agressive?

Now that's an overbet.

My concern here would be that initial better calls with a set then SB calls with a higher flush draw (thinking he now has odds to draw to it).

If that were to happen, you're dead.

For that reason, I like this with As4s but not 8s4s.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-08-2005, 04:43 PM
Rocaix Rocaix is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 31
Default Re: Stars 5/10 NL - 48s, too agressive?

Looks too much like a semi-bluff, unless you also pull this move with a set/two pair.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-08-2005, 04:50 PM
KegNog KegNog is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 4
Default Re: Stars 5/10 NL - 48s, too agressive?

WOW! what were you thinking? you ONLY get called when beat and you're risking your whole stack on it...this is definitely a play that you can only make if you're used to playing with poor players who don't understand that move (which at $5-$10 isn't going to be the case), or else you've already done this move 2 or 3 times AT THIS TABLE and have shown down a huge hand.

If this happens to me, I can call with a lot more hands than i normally would knowing it's a stone cold bluff. Not saying I would call, but I wouldn't give you credit for much.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-08-2005, 05:01 PM
augie00 augie00 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 1
Default Re: Stars 5/10 NL - 48s, too agressive?

Can we agree that the play here is to raise? How much should I raise?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-08-2005, 05:35 PM
fsuplayer fsuplayer is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 187
Default Re: Stars 5/10 NL - 48s, too agressive?

i like betting out or check calling here.

CRing this hand is bad in an unraised pot. anything could be out there, and the pot is quite small.

if you did a normal CR, then you are in trouble if you get called and miss the turn.

play these hands aggressively in raised pots HU or 3 ways, not in unraised pots.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-08-2005, 07:44 PM
morello morello is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 3
Default Re: Stars 5/10 NL - 48s, too agressive?

[ QUOTE ]
Can we agree that the play here is to raise?

[/ QUOTE ]

No.

You're much better off either 1) check-calling or 2) Leading, and then if he raises, re-raising (or possibly calling).

As it stands you're basically telegraphing what your hand is . A flush draw with a pair, or a flush draw w/ a gutshot/OE draw.

Are you ever playing a set, two, an overpair like this? I doubt it.

And now that your opponent knows what you have, it makes it pretty easy on him to make a decision.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-09-2005, 03:05 AM
freemoney freemoney is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: smooth-calling with aces
Posts: 889
Default Re: Stars 5/10 NL - 48s, too agressive?

its a little overaggressive too much of an overbet but i dont think its nearly as bad as some posters think, you are a coinflip against an overpair and have 30% chance against a set of 2s with fold equity from other hands that are ahead at the time, the overbet seems a little unnecessary unless you have been doing this but not so bad
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-09-2005, 03:30 AM
mike1684 mike1684 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 6
Default Re: Stars 5/10 NL - 48s, too agressive?

why hasnt anyone suggested simply folding????? i d say that move is pretty wreckless and your just putting too much at risk with a weak hand... i mean correct me if im wrong please
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-09-2005, 03:38 AM
B1GF1SHY B1GF1SHY is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 155
Default Re: Stars 5/10 NL - 48s, too agressive?

I'm not sure why no one has suggested it, I fold here.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:28 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.