A common problem for me: AK @ 3/6 Party

flopmonster · #1 04-06-2005, 06:00 PM

This has been a common occurring situation for me. What should I do on this turn with my AK UI HU? Is there no simple answer to this and is it completely read related? I really am getting pretty lazy with noting players at my table because I have been playing 7-8 tables. Comments on all streets appreciated.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 3 folds, MP2 calls, 5 folds.

Flop: (5.33 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls.

Turn: (3.66 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls.

River: (5.66 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks.

Final Pot: 5.66 BB

A_C_Slater · #2 04-06-2005, 06:04 PM

On the turn there is about 4 BB's in the pot. You have six outs at odds of 7 to 1. You should bet if the pot is a little bit bigger (6 or 7BB's) or check if it's small. Turn the 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] into a 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and that would make it a bet. Did he have a middle pocket pair?

thirddan · #3 04-06-2005, 06:09 PM

i play it the same...

climber · #4 04-06-2005, 06:12 PM

In my experience at the Party 3/6 this guy is usually holding J5o.

I play the same as you and just suck it up.

My question is what to do with this hand and board against more aggressive thinking players?

How do you respond to a flop raise? What players do you call down against and what players do you fold against--when do you fold? Call the flop raise and check/fold the turn UI? This starts to get pretty predictable but then you don't want to become an uber calling station either.

How do you respond to a turn raise? Fold outright? Call and check/fold the river UI? Call down? Against which players?

For me this is the more common/significant scenario...anyone else?

flopmonster · #5 04-06-2005, 06:15 PM

AC, I pmed you the results

bobbyi · #6 04-06-2005, 06:19 PM

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On the turn there is about 4 BB's in the pot. You have six outs at odds of 7 to 1.

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I see no reason on the turn to believe that I don't have the best hand.

A_C_Slater · #7 04-06-2005, 06:19 PM

I got the pm. His flop and turn calls are incomprehensible to me.

flopmonster · #8 04-06-2005, 06:20 PM

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In my experience at the Party 3/6 this guy is usually holding J5o.

I play the same as you and just suck it up.

My question is what to do with this hand and board against more aggressive thinking players?

How do you respond to a flop raise? What players do you call down against and what players do you fold against--when do you fold? Call the flop raise and check/fold the turn UI? This starts to get pretty predictable but then you don't want to become an uber calling station either.

How do you respond to a turn raise? Fold outright? Call and check/fold the river UI? Call down? Against which players?

For me this is the more common/significant scenario...anyone else?

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How do I respond to a flop raise? 70% of the time I call on fold the turn UI , 20% of the time I fold the flop, and another 10 % of the time I go over the top of the flop raise and stay aggressive? This would be against a player who I thought was making a play on me...

To a turn raise I fold almost all of the time right then and there.

flopmonster · #9 04-06-2005, 06:23 PM

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I got the pm. His flop and turn calls are incomprehensible to me.

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Haha, I wish more of his kind were around at 3/6. The fact that he checked the river makes me really like him at my table.

A_C_Slater · #10 04-06-2005, 06:25 PM

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On the turn there is about 4 BB's in the pot. You have six outs at odds of 7 to 1.

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I see no reason on the turn to believe that I don't have the best hand.

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What range of hands do you put the villian on after cold calling preflop and calling the flop? I don not think a turn bet is bad. I just think it's unecessary in a pot this small.