Flop A set of aces on a ragged board...

[mtdoak]

This is one situation where slowplaying is the right move....right?

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero ...



Final Pot: 10.25 BB

[Entity]

What will they call with for one bet that they'd fold for two? What is CO's range of hands here?

[me454555]

I generally call here b/c you have so much pot equity and I want to keep people in the hand. People will call w/PPs and some high offsuit cards. If you really want to make money pop the turn or river.

[A_C_Slater]

No way. It's straight coordinated and there's already 10 SB's in there. The pot is big enough already. They either have a straight draw with this flop in which case they will call your raise anyway. They either have an ace, again they will call anyway. Or they have a underset in which case you'll be payed off huge regardless of slowplay. Or with this flop they most likely have nothing at all, in which cas they will fold to any bet. The only thing you have to worry about is the straight draw potential. Charge them for it.



Then again... I suppose Middle pocket pairs might stay in if you just call, but those hands are most unlikely. They won't be calling with QT on this flop, unless you have some notes that indicate otherwise.

[flopmonster]

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No way. It's straight coordinated and there's already 10 SB's in there. The pot is big enough already. They either have a straight draw with this flop in which case they will call your raise anyway. They either have an ace, again they will call anyway. Or they have a underset in which case you'll be payed off huge regardless of slowplay. Or with this flop they most likely have nothing at all, in which cas they will fold to any bet. The only thing you have to worry about is the straight draw potential. Charge them for it.



Then again... I suppose Middle pocket pairs might stay in if you just call, but those hands are most unlikely. They won't be calling with QT on this flop, unless you have some notes that indicate otherwise.

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agreed.....how many mid pocket pairs can be out there?

[Little Fishy]

i think you'd make a lot more if you just call and then pop the turn, especially if someone comes along and then pairs up on the turn. I say call the flop and then pop the turn no matter what hits.

-little itty bitty fishy

[marching_on_together]

call, let them catch up a bit and pop them later. There are low card straights possible but even at 2-4 23 doesn't get played much, if you raise this you will frequently blow everybody away. I would let them call with overcards and pairs and hope they improve.

[Stu Pidasso]

If you don't raise, a gut shot will have correct odds to draw. Raising protects your hand.

Heres a good rule of thumb in these situations

PROTECT YOUR F..K..G HAND!

Religious application of that rule is the hallmark of an expert player.

Stu

[marching_on_together]

Thes guys called from relatively early positions pre-flop which even allowing for poor players makes straight possibilities less likely than if this involved higher cards. I think there is more value here in slow playing this even accounting for the times you end up losing this pot to a hand you could have folded on the flop.

[dr. klopek]

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Flop A set of aces

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The answer is RAISE.