Phil Hellmuth texas hold em book

[SNOWBALL138]

Here's a quick description of it from Amazon:

Now you can play and win at the world's most popular gambling card game with the help of the "Poker Brat" himself. It makes no difference if you're a novice or a serious player, gambling online, in casinos, or in a friend's basement, Hellmuth can help you elevate your game with the secrets and strategies that made him a nine-time World Champion and the #1 professional money winner of all time.



LOL. #1 Money winner of all time? Negraneau rates Phil's cash game skills at #1, that is, on a scale on 1-9!
Daniel also said that Phil is probably not a winning player in the big cash games...

Where is phil winning all this money? Maybe from the rake at ultimatebet?

[FishHooks]

I dont know why eveyone bashes Phil; he is easily one of the best players in the world, fun to watch on tv, and seems like a nice guy in person. Ever watch the poker commentary on rounders, doesn't seem like he is an ass there like TV makes him out to be. Phil on ESPN's WSOP all they show is him making as ass of himself, which he does on occasion, but they only show you an hour of phil during the whole thing when he was there for many days. It reminds me of the liberal media during the elections.

[Skipbidder]

You may enjoy watching him on TV. I don't. This may simply be a matter of personality. However, even if his TV actions are only a very small percentage of his overall actions, he is still a big-time ass. Well-adjusted human beings simply do not act the way he does. If he were one-fifth as good a player as he thinks he is, he would already be the best player in the history of poker.

[FishHooks]

Tournament wise I think he is the best player in the world, unargubally top 5. Talking about cash games, i have no idea, as most people in this forum don't.

[SNOWBALL138]

Obviously Phil is no longer a top player. He would probably even admit that. Maybe if he tried hard again, he would again perform well in tournaments. He doesn't put in the time and effort, so I suppose we can't know for sure.

The best reasons to bash Phil:

1. His book

2. His cell phone game

3. His other book.

Why is Phil unarguable in the top five?

I think the future will Show that the following players have the potential to be, or are already better tournament players than he.

1. Greenstein
2. Hansen
3. Negraneau
4. Cloutier
5. Juanda
6. Lindgren
7. Ferguson
8. Pham
9. Mortenson

As for his cash game skills, the only info I have is from Greenstein and Negraneau.

But seriously, If Sklanky, Ray Zee, Chip Reese, Greenstein, Negraneau, and Chau Giang were sitting around playing a mix of cash games, do you think that Hellmuth would win even .01 BB/hr? To call Hellmuth the #1 money winner is a totally bizarre statement, and thats all I meant by my post.

[FishHooks]

Regarding cash games I can't really say how good he is.

Talking about tournaments I still think he is the best, and easily top 5, he basically makes all the correct reads and moves and lays down many more 2nd best hands than anyone I see. I just think he gets screwed over sometimes especially playing all the non-pros in the tournaments who get lucky on him. He usually has is money in with the best hand and sometimes he happens to get unlucky but thats poker. Even though I like phil, I still dont really want to read his book, i've heard is sucks and is for real beginners.

I will admit he was an ass when Annie Duke beat him on the Tournament of Champions, she outplayed him and he just outguessed himself the whole time, which is why he is not as good of a short handed player as he is full. Allthough she got unlucky many times HU when he had top pair weak kicker, which is usually good enough in HU matches and he made some good laydowns, but her agressivemess got to him and she definatly outplayed him, made it a little easier when she got better cards though.

[JohnG]

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Tournament wise I think he is the best player in the world, unargubally top 5.

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I would argue.

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Talking about cash games, i have no idea, as most people in this forum don't.

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His cash game ability is hardly a secret.

[JohnG]

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Talking about tournaments I still think he is the best, and easily top 5, he basically makes all the correct reads and moves

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You, my friend, are deluded.

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and lays down many more 2nd best hands than anyone I see.

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He also lays down many more best hands than anyone you see.

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He usually has is money in with the best hand and sometimes he happens to get unlucky but thats poker.

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When you are so very reluctant to get all your chips in, it stands to reason you will usually have the best hand when you do eventually get it allin. This is no great skill.

[FishHooks]

[/ QUOTE ] His cash game ability is hardly a secret.

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So you've played with Phil? or is this second hand knowledge about what other players have said, and from players you have never met?

Regarding what you said about him laying down the best hands, well if you never lay down the best hand your are calling way too much. I think he can read people better than anyone and he knows how to pick his spots, some situations is just not worth it.

Getting your chips in with the best of it is a great skill, many players dont know how to pick their spots and will bluff with out the best hand, Phil bluffs but he knows how to get away if he gets caught. Many poker players will all agree, one thing that sets a great player from a good players is a great player knows how to call an all in with a weak hand and move all in with a horriable hand. Many people take this too far and I think Phil picks is great at picking his spots, and he has the ability to call in all in with a marginal hand because of his great reads.

You just find it easy to bash Phil so you do it, or maybe your bitter because you think your better than Phil but yet hes the one whos the High Roller not you.

[jakethebake]

Dear FishHooks,

I'm sure you'll enjoy this for your next manual stimulation session:




And do you already have one of these or is your mommy getting it for your birthday?