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Old 04-01-2005, 06:45 PM
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Default Preflop agression question

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $15.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero ??

What are the benefits of raising here and do they outweigh the negatives?

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Old 04-01-2005, 07:34 PM
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I'd like opinions on this one. Every once in a while I check here and see how the flop develops.

Party 15/30:
I have Ah Qh in the BB.
UTG and UTG+1 limp. LP limps. Eveyone else folds.

Should I raise every time? Any exceptions?
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Old 04-01-2005, 07:48 PM
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I'd probably raise both. I wouldn't raise A4s though if not for the poster. The poster likely has a pretty weak holding as I think the raising range for a typical CO poster is pretty wide here. If you can get heads up with A-high and 1.67 BB's of dead money it can't be a bad thing. The 15/30 is a $10 SB right? I find it interesting that the SB folded in both examples.
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Old 04-01-2005, 09:17 PM
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Default Re: Preflop agression question

There is something to be said for taking the initative.
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Old 04-01-2005, 09:38 PM
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checking would be really bad, especially since you're suited
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Old 04-01-2005, 09:38 PM
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easy raise
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Old 04-01-2005, 10:05 PM
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Default Re: Preflop agression question

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I'd probably raise both. I wouldn't raise A4s though if not for the poster. The poster likely has a pretty weak holding as I think the raising range for a typical CO poster is pretty wide here. If you can get heads up with A-high and 1.67 BB's of dead money it can't be a bad thing. The 15/30 is a $10 SB right? I find it interesting that the SB folded in both examples.

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At 15/30, would the As4s be a three bet if the CO poster had raised instead of checking? My inclination says yes, but I have limited 15/30 experience.

I know that personally, when I post a blind in the CO in a 1/2 SB game, I usually follow Ciaffone's advice and 'raise first, then look at my cards.'

-donger
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Old 04-01-2005, 10:27 PM
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Why are you raising a weak hand with no fold equity OOP?
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Old 04-01-2005, 11:01 PM
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I raise, I think you may collect the sb and the cutoff enough times to warrant the raise.
Let alone the chances you have the best hand and the ability to take it down on the flop if a K or Q flops.

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Old 04-02-2005, 12:45 AM
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Why are you raising a weak hand with no fold equity OOP?

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Why wouldn't you have any fold equity? If the CO halfway liked his hand (or was an aggressive player), he would have raised it himself. To him, your hand will look like a much bigger hand than it actually is, since he will reason you could have checked and taken a flop with any weak holding.

You're getting 2.66:1 to make the play, and many times you will take it down with a flop bet.
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