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Old 04-01-2005, 01:02 PM
Turning Stone Pro Turning Stone Pro is offline
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Default Simple preflop 5 handed 15-30 question.

PP 15 6-max table, 5 handed.

Decent player raises UTG. MP folds, I'm on the button with Ks10s. Blinds are reasonable.

Muck or call?

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Old 04-01-2005, 01:11 PM
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Default Re: Simple preflop 5 handed 15-30 question.

Don't you mean muck or 3-bet? Or no?
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Old 04-01-2005, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: Simple preflop 5 handed 15-30 question.

Well, good question. Muck, call, or 3-bet?

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Old 04-01-2005, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: Simple preflop 5 handed 15-30 question.

If my read is that the blinds will likely follow me in for the two bets, then I think calling is reasonable. I don't like raising to 3bets and getting heads up against UTG as you described him, my chances of being dominated are much higher that chances of hitting a flush or stght. So to me, it is a close one between call and fold, and really dependent on the blinds and my read here. I would lean to folding with your description of the blinds, and I never like to cold call. I think I need A-10S or better or KQs to move to the 3 bet, or 1010 or better, but that's probably a bit tight for this crowd



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Old 04-01-2005, 02:01 PM
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Default Re: Simple preflop 5 handed 15-30 question.

1. Muck
2. three bet
3. muck
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9. call- but it would be a misclick.
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Old 04-01-2005, 02:15 PM
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Default Re: Simple preflop 5 handed 15-30 question.

Why do you want to play against a good player with good cards?
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Old 04-01-2005, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: Simple preflop 5 handed 15-30 question.

Default is to fold but if I know decent player is capable of raising J9s or 98s etc occasionally UTG 5 handed I might 3 bet.
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Old 04-01-2005, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: Simple preflop 5 handed 15-30 question.

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Well, good question. Muck, call, or 3-bet?

TSP

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Now that we have that worked out . . . [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Against a UTG raise, my instinct is to fold, but if I've been running well at the table I might 3-bet it. Against a CO open-raise, I'd be much more likely to 3-bet it (unless at that point nobody trusts me at all).
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Old 04-02-2005, 08:48 AM
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Default Re: Simple preflop 5 handed 15-30 question.

usually muck it.

if you have bad postflop players in the blinds who will come along then coldcalling is probably better.

otherwise 3bet.
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Old 04-02-2005, 10:49 AM
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Default Re: Simple preflop 5 handed 15-30 question.

This should usually be a fold, but if you want to play the hand a 3 bet in mandatory to try to get the blinds out, get thier dead money in, and your opponent off hands like medium suited aces of 55-88 postflop.
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