Another QQ hand vs a TAGish player

ucfryan · #1 04-01-2005, 02:10 AM

Ok I screwed this up. I thought I had recalled the main villain in this hand as someone I play with often, but I was wrong. Villain is still TAGish though (21/11/3 over almost 100 hands). MP is your typical party player. Now a raise from button here could mean a king, flush draw, or lower pair (but I'm not holding my breath here). Is this the best line to take in this situation? I'm just reworking the basics, I'm in a pretty rough downturn right now and I'm really questioning everything that I'm doing. Thanks.

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP1 calls, Hero raises, 2 folds, Button calls, 2 folds, MP1 calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, Button raises, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks, Button bets, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

River: (9.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks, Button bets, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.75 BB

mr pink · #2 04-01-2005, 02:14 AM

it looks like this TAG coldcalls too much because i'm having a hard time seeing any hand i'd cc there with a king in it.

brettbrettr · #3 04-01-2005, 02:16 AM

KQs?

CallMeIshmael · #4 04-01-2005, 02:16 AM

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it looks like this TAG coldcalls too much because i'm having a hard time seeing any hand i'd cc there with a king in it.

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Pink, you and I think so much alike sometimes...

I was looking at that hand, and saying KsQs is the only hand **I** could that have hero is behind.

I'm crazy about having to overcall, but I think you have bettor beat a good chuck on the time here. I like it.

mr pink · #5 04-01-2005, 02:23 AM

do you always coldcall right after the raiser w/ KQs ?

i usually dump it unless i get a couple callers in between... is that a mistake or no?

mr pink · #6 04-01-2005, 02:29 AM

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Pink, you and I think so much alike sometimes...

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i've noticed [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].

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I'm crazy about having to overcall, but I think you have bettor beat a good chuck on the time here. I like it.

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i feel like a TAG would check behind something like 99 or 88 here on the river, but would probably raise the flop and bet the turn. if it's a flush draw, it's not the brightest way to be playin it. the only hand that makes any sense is a King.

that being said, i think the river call is ok. but i wouldn't be expecting to win it very often. i think i fold too often in spots like these anyways, at least as of lately.

ucfryan · #7 04-01-2005, 02:30 AM

88 has me beat here [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

brettbrettr · #8 04-01-2005, 02:31 AM

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do you always coldcall right after the raiser w/ KQs ?

i usually dump it unless i get a couple callers in between... is that a mistake or no?

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No, I never cold call with KQs unless we've got some in between. But it remains a possible hand for a(nother) TAG.

ucfryan · #9 04-01-2005, 02:35 AM

Blah, if you guys could re-read the description of button here it might help. I messed up on who I thought he was, my appologies. My brain isn't firing on all cylinders tonight.

mr pink · #10 04-01-2005, 02:35 AM

whoops. is that what he had?

edit: that would suck.