How bad is this play.

Nottom · #1 03-31-2005, 10:25 PM

A friend of mine played this hand in the Empire 15K tonight.

No great reads to speak of but the PFR seems solid enough.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

UTG+2 (t1535)
MP1 (t1060)
MP2 (t725)
MP3 (t905)
CO (t1865)
Button (t810)
SB (t1430)
Hero (t1515)
UTG (t770)
UTG+1 (t430)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, UTG+2 calls t15, 3 folds, CO raises to t100, 3 folds, UTG+2 folds.

Final Pot: t137.50

Superfluous Man · #2 03-31-2005, 11:12 PM

If he's not going to play AK, what is he going to play? I understand he'll be first to act, but this is still totally weak. Even solid players will raise with less than AA/KK.

pokerraja · #3 03-31-2005, 11:44 PM

I never think its exactly horrible to fold AK to raise. Im not saying its always correct to fold here either. I will admit this is a bit weak, but its ok, hes out of position on this hand, and hes not in any rush.

Crooked Paul · #4 04-01-2005, 01:12 AM

There aren't many hands that have you beat here, percentage-wise. I'd totally call it and see a flop.

Crooked

Iconoclastic · #5 04-01-2005, 01:35 AM

Reverse implied odds here. Push or fold. I like to win tourneys so I would push.

Roman · #6 04-01-2005, 01:44 AM

Its prolly only slightly -EV to fold considering his range and your position, but I dont like passing edges, so I take it.

Nottom · #7 04-01-2005, 03:02 AM

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Reverse implied odds here. Push or fold. I like to win tourneys so I would push.

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If you seriously think pushing is the correct play, then you obviously don't like to win tourneys.

PukaPlaya · #8 04-01-2005, 04:04 AM

It's one thing to fold AK to an all-in or a HUGE raise. This was super weak and he should have at least seen the flop. That raise to me means he COULD have AA or KK but most likely has a weaker hand like JJ. He also could have had AK or AQ as well.

See the flop.

Iconoclastic · #9 04-01-2005, 09:08 PM

I don't know the average skill level at the Empire 15Ks, but in the ones I play in early on people raise with all kinds of hands, including ones you dominate, and will call a push. You also have folding equity against some medium PP for a decent sized pot. Also calling in bad position leaves you with nothing 70% of the time, and you're not going to get much out of a solid opponent if they see an overcard anyway.

billyjex · #10 04-01-2005, 09:13 PM

I think I'd just call here and take a flop.