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Old 03-30-2005, 05:28 PM
Buckmulligan Buckmulligan is offline
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Default Does the intentional pause + Value bet add EV?

Cmon guys, we have all done it - the old "I have a monster here on the river and I really want a caller so I'll take a 5 second pause to make him think I am contemplating a buy which will in turn improve my chances of getting called by a marginal hand."

We all do it, but do you think it actually has any worth?

This refers to Online play only, by the way.
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Old 03-30-2005, 05:32 PM
SoftcoreRevolt SoftcoreRevolt is offline
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Default Re: Does the intentional pause + Value bet add EV?

Sure, the fish always get hooked by the pause raise. Sometimes they'll reraise with a marginal hand, and in hilarious circumstances CAP when you pause 3 bet.

I never thought a Pause 3 bet would work, but I was wrong.
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Old 03-30-2005, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: Does the intentional pause + Value bet add EV?

This is an obvious fish move, the fiush use it ALL the time, so i don't. I use it against good players when Im bluffing tho...and it seems to be working well
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Old 03-31-2005, 07:07 AM
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Default Re: Does the intentional pause + Value bet add EV?

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This is an obvious fish move, the fiush use it ALL the time, so i don't. I use it against good players when Im bluffing tho...and it seems to be working well

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Agreed. It works well as a semi-bluff maneuver on a TAG you've played little against. That's pretty much it.
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Old 03-31-2005, 08:52 AM
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Default Re: Does the intentional pause + Value bet add EV?

We all do it???

Slowroll even once against me and I will kill ya.

Honestly nothing makes me more tilted in online poker then slowrolling mother fucker fishes who think it actually matters how much time they use.
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Old 03-31-2005, 09:54 AM
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Default Re: Does the intentional pause + Value bet add EV?

I actually get much more pissed by the guys who hit the "bet" button so damn fast it's unreal - like it's gonna win them more money or something.

I just pause for the full 19 seconds to piss them off [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 03-31-2005, 10:17 AM
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Default Re: Does the intentional pause + Value bet add EV?

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I actually get much more pissed by the guys who hit the "bet" button so damn fast it's unreal - like it's gonna win them more money or something.

I just pause for the full 19 seconds to piss them off [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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More hands per hour * Positive winrate = more money

so it really does.
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Old 03-31-2005, 10:31 AM
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I actually get much more pissed by the guys who hit the "bet" button so damn fast it's unreal - like it's gonna win them more money or something.

I just pause for the full 19 seconds to piss them off [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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More hands per hour * Positive winrate = more money

so it really does.

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yeah, but I'd lay money that most of these fucktards dont have a positive winrate, so just like in the hand, they are in a hurry to give away their money [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 03-31-2005, 11:08 AM
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Default Re: Does the intentional pause + Value bet add EV?

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We all do it???

Slowroll even once against me and I will kill ya.

Honestly nothing makes me more tilted in online poker then slowrolling mother fucker fishes who think it actually matters how much time they use.

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This is the best argument for pausing that I've heard.

-flub
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Old 03-31-2005, 11:09 AM
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More hands per hour * Positive winrate = more money

so it really does.

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Not when I pause for 19 seconds [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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