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Sometimes I start thinking about unlikely scenarios and what one should do. So... with that said, maybe someone else finds this interesting.
Let's imagine everyone sat down at a table with full 100bb. You find yourself on the button with pocket 7s. UTG opens with 8xbb. UTG+1 raises to 24bb... The next seat goes all in. EVERY PLAYER CALLS THE ALL IN Bet to you... Do you call? What range of hands do you play? What do you think the best hand to have would be, and why? (With your answer, you should make assumptions about what kinds of hands everyone else is likely to have... assuming they're not all mentally challenged) I know one is unlikely to ever be in that situation, but I find it interesting. |
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look to your left and see what the BB and SB are gonna do ; 0
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So, you have about 7 players who are abolustely in the hand and probably 2 or 3 more?
I sure as hell don't play 77. Even if you were to flop a set, I think the chances are pretty darned good that at least two or three others ahead of you have PPs higher than yours, all with a chance of hitting the same set. I'd be a lot more apt to call this hand with a 89s or something that could really be the winner after all five cards are out. |
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I had something similar last night. I limp with 88, tight player behind me throws out two greens but says he actually meant to toss out one green and one red, but it don't matter cuz the guy behind him makes it $100, some people fold and a drunk guy calls with 74o (because it's the nuts) and I'm wondering if I should get it all-in here getting 3:1 on my money. I ended up folding because I couldn't believe that neither of them had an overpair with all that action. I'm not sure at what point I would have gone ahead and thrown my money in.
In case you're curious, the board came down K7448 and I would have finished in second place, as the hands involved were AA, KK, and 74o. The poor guy with AA got cracked by all three of us. =) |
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Not sure why I'm answering this because it's an extremely odd question.
My answer...fold. Given that, what you said if a 7 doesn't hit, you lose. Even if a 7 hits, you could lose to a straight, flush or higher set. I always thought of it as, the more and more action on a hand pf before me, the better my hand has to be. (I'm speaking about all in or reraising here, not smooth calling) The problem is, you're 7.5 to 1 to hit your set on the flop, but even if you hit it, no one says you're going to win. I'd think you'd be dominated with a higher PP and at best, in a race with AK, AQs, etc. |
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As Ad 104949 27.84 271517 72.02 526 0.14 0.279
Ks Kh 69810 18.52 306656 81.34 526 0.14 0.185 Qs Qc 57183 15.17 319283 84.69 526 0.14 0.152 Jd Jh 41468 11.00 334998 88.86 526 0.14 0.110 Tc Td 32352 8.58 344114 91.28 526 0.14 0.086 9s 9h 25354 6.73 351112 93.14 526 0.14 0.067 8d 8h 22072 5.85 354394 94.01 526 0.14 0.059 7s 7c 23278 6.17 353188 93.69 526 0.14 0.062 Methinks that would suck. As Ad 88218 23.40 287940 76.38 834 0.22 0.234 Ks Kh 64843 17.20 311315 82.58 834 0.22 0.172 Qs Qc 55399 14.70 320759 85.08 834 0.22 0.147 Jd Jh 37145 9.85 339013 89.93 834 0.22 0.099 Tc Td 30865 8.19 345293 91.59 834 0.22 0.082 9s 9h 25304 6.71 350854 93.07 834 0.22 0.067 8d 8h 22830 6.06 353328 93.72 834 0.22 0.061 5s 4s 51554 13.68 324604 86.10 834 0.22 0.137 Looks a little better, but still meh. |
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And Soah... you could probably look at this statistically...
I figure this... the players are going to have a variety of playing styles. There could be AKs in there. High pocket pairs. If this was too actually happen, I would suspect that there could even be duplicated high pocket pairs (ie... if 2 people had pocket aces... they're both going all in.) Since you would expect a lot of the high cards to be taken, a lot of their outs would likely be dead, no? In that respect, wouldn't a low or middle pocket pair have a better chance of hitting a set then a high pair? And then there's low-med suited connectors... With high cards likely to be out, wouldn't low suited connectors gain in value for hitting straights/flushes and 2 pair? (Also... does the question change if you're in the BB and everyone is all in except you?) |
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how about this:
<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre> Ac Ad 7228 1.44 155982 31.08 338732 67.48 0.350 As Ah 10506 2.09 152704 30.42 338732 67.48 0.357 Kc Kd 0 0.00 500012 99.62 1930 0.38 0.001 Ks Kh 0 0.00 500012 99.62 1930 0.38 0.001 Qc Qd 68 0.01 493176 98.25 8698 1.73 0.007 Qs Qh 68 0.01 493176 98.25 8698 1.73 0.007 7c 7d 138572 27.61 361440 72.01 1930 0.38 0.277</pre><hr /> |
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But figuring all of that out is too much work.
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I'd sooner play SCs than 7s in a family pot. I'd fold the 7s and just be glad I'm at the table to watch the action.
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