Are SnG's the worst way to play with variance?

[ace_in_the_hole]

I have just completed 100 10+1 Sng's on party. I know this number means nothing but,m I currently have a negative ROI: -4%. Could it be that I am a good winnign player still or should I go back to NL ring games where I was at $3/100 hands which at least is prfitable.
What I am getting to is, for people who play these thigns for a living, is a negative ROI over 100 SnG's nothing to sneeze at or do I need to do some mroe work on my game. 4th place is my most common finish and many of these bustouts were AK vs A8 scenarios wherr the river is an 8 and so on.. I ahve never gone more than 9 days witrhout a winning day until these daMN sNg'S

[The Yugoslavian]

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I have just completed 100 10+1 Sng's on party. I know this number means nothing but,m I currently have a negative ROI: -4%. Could it be that I am a good winnign player still or should I go back to NL ring games where I was at $3/100 hands which at least is prfitable.
What I am getting to is, for people who play these thigns for a living, is a negative ROI over 100 SnG's nothing to sneeze at or do I need to do some mroe work on my game. 4th place is my most common finish and many of these bustouts were AK vs A8 scenarios wherr the river is an 8 and so on.. I ahve never gone more than 9 days witrhout a winning day until these daMN sNg'S

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Ugh....are you serious??!!!!

I can't even respond to this......

My head is about to asplode...

@!#%!@$#%!@# #$%^!#$@%@!# !@#$%!@#%@!#%

Yugoslav

[Rolen]

Variance is eliminated once you hit 101 SNGs. Still a ways to go yet

..Seriously, if you know you're a winning player at ring tourneys and you're not sure about SNGs, play in ring games.

[ace_in_the_hole]

Thast what I am trying to get at. Is it possible for em to ba a losing player at Sng's but a winning player at NL ring games. I knoow it IS possible but is it common?

[stupidsucker]

in short

a)100 is tiny tiny tiny sample size. I get -RoI runs for 100 sngs all the time.

b) Your game probably does need some work. Afterall you did just get started

c) Variance for SnGs is teeny weeny compared to any other form of poker I know.

If you want to learn more then read read read up on this forum. If you want to give up then there is no harm in not liking SnGs and sticking with ring games.

[ace_in_the_hole]

I just read that after 500 SnG's u have a 50% chance of knowing that your true ROI is within 5% of your actual ROI.

[BradleyT]

If you win the next 2 you play your ROI will be above 5%.

[ace_in_the_hole]

Thanks "stupidsucker" That is the answer I was looking for. I think that I am sucessful but am havign a bad run, many of my bustouts have been almost unavoidable. I plan on playing 600 Sng's in April and I think that as long as these downswings aren't across 200 Sng's I should be fine in the long run. I pay my utility bills with poke only $220/month but I am hoping to not ahve a losing month.

[SuitedSixes]

I would guess that you are playing more of a ring game style (playing suited connectors, over-valuing small pocket pairs). You need to tighten up considerably from there if you want to beat these things.

Did you read AM's "How to Beat 10+1?" That's a good start.

P.S.
Nevermind Yugo, he's still sick from the hookah.

[pooh74]

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If you win the next 2 you play your ROI will be above 5%.

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there's the pudding