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2 TP\'s in multiway pots
PP 15/30
Do you play this differently? 1 hand. Button is clueless one, who overplays majority of his hands and make some unbelievable moves like bluff 3-bets on river, calling down with Q-high etc... The others seems semi decent here. Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Peter_rus is UTG+1 with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. MP2 posts a blind of $15. CO posts a blind of $15. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Peter_rus calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 (poster) checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 (stup LAG)/ raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls, Peter_rus calls, MP2 calls. Flop: (11 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, Peter_rus checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">stup LAG bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, Peter_rus calls, MP2 folds. Turn: (7.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Peter_rus bets</font>, stup LAG calls, SB calls, BB calls. River: (11.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, Peter_rus checks, <font color="#CC3333">stup LAG bets</font>, SB folds, BB folds, Peter_rus calls. Final Pot: 13.50 BB 2 hand UTG+1 is loose-passive. MP2 is semi-decent, able to raise any ace here or 2random spades. Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (8 handed) converter Preflop: Peter_rus is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Peter_rus raises</font>, UTG+1 (LP)/ calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls. Flop: (10 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Peter_rus bets</font>, LP calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, SB calls, BB folds, Peter_rus calls, <font color="#CC3333">LP 3-bets</font>, MP2 folds, SB calls, Peter_rus folds. Turn: (10 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">LP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, LP calls. River: (14 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, LP calls. Final Pot: 16 BB |
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Re: 2 TP\'s in multiway pots
I would fold both these hands preflop, despite the two posters in hand 1 A2s is just too weak IMO. I like the turn on hand 1, hopefully getting the LAG to raise out everyone else. On hand 2 it does seem that your behind on the flop after the two raises so foldings good there.
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Re: 2 TP\'s in multiway pots
Hand 1, presume you only play this because there are 2 posters coming in?
Why not bet the river? Or are you relying on a LAG bet to see if the others will raise/fold first? Hand 2, I fold ATo preflop this far off the button. Does it pay for you in this position? Maybe with 2/3 blind structure this is profitable? If no read on the call-reraiser, I think the fold is OK. Since he showed it down, you will know if he's tricky and plays your fold equity. |
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Re: 2 TP\'s in multiway pots
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presume you only play this because there are 2 posters coming in? [/ QUOTE ] Yes. [ QUOTE ] Why not bet the river? [/ QUOTE ] I hoped for free SD. I was very afraid of better ace in SB-BB hand as their play shows something like A8. I guess even this LAG could be afraid to bet trash here with so many people on river. Also i was ready to muck hand if LAG bets and someone c/r-ses him. [ QUOTE ] Does it pay for you in this position? [/ QUOTE ] Currently - yes. Also take note, that there were only 8 people on a table. ATo: UTG+2: TH 131, VPIP 90.84, BB/100 +0.65, WSD 41.18, W$SD 59.52, PFR 90.08 MP1: TH 156, VPIP 82.05, BB/100 +0.40, WSD 38.32, W$SD 53.66, PFR 80.13 5th position |
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Re: 2 TP\'s in multiway pots
Hand 1 - likely folded preflop unless a lot of limpers. I have not been playing AXs well lately for situations just like this. It's hard to get away from TP against a player like the one you describe. Having said that, if he IS like you described, I can't say I'd play it any different.
Hand 2 - looks to me like someone is yelling I have a Q. |
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Re: 2 TP\'s in multiway pots
Thanks Peter.
Looking at my ATo by position I tend to play it 4 off the button; I've got a VPIP at 83% there but 5 off the button I'm down to 34% VPIP. Both are profitable (4: 0.3/100 5: 0.23/100) but very small sample sizes (35-ish). Maybe I will pull hand this back a position and see what happens .. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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