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Old 03-29-2005, 12:49 AM
bweiser8311962 bweiser8311962 is offline
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Default Are you good enough to make these laydowns?

I am not.

I hit a set of 6s and was beat by a set of Queens.

I have a pair of queens and get re-raised all-in preflop. Naturally, he has aces. I figured he had aces. I just couldn't lay it down.

Would you?

And: How often do you think you are up against a higher set? That all-in could easily have been pocket aces or kings. The all-in preflop was one of 3 hands: Aces, Kings or A/K. Though the very aggressive at the low levels (which I play) would push with worse hands. I've seen Q/10 and A/J push all-in in the last few days.
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Old 03-29-2005, 12:51 AM
zaxx19 zaxx19 is offline
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Default Re: Are you good enough to make these laydowns?

FORGET LAYING DOWN A SET ON A SAFE BOARD IN SSNLH.

Thats it...thats all.
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Old 03-29-2005, 12:53 AM
Kaz The Original Kaz The Original is offline
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Default Re: Are you good enough to make these laydowns?

I fold QQ before the flop with some regularity.
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Old 03-29-2005, 12:55 AM
Kaz The Original Kaz The Original is offline
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Default Re: Are you good enough to make these laydowns?

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FORGET LAYING DOWN A SET ON A SAFE BOARD IN SSNLH.

Thats it...thats all.

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You may be a fool when it comes to politics *grin* but takes these words to heart. If you never folded a set, where a set was the nuts, in a 100xBB game, your play would not be far from optimum.
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Old 03-29-2005, 12:55 AM
bweiser8311962 bweiser8311962 is offline
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Default Re: Are you good enough to make these laydowns?

Kaz:

Is that based stronly on a read of your opponent, your dislike of the ladies, simple respect of a re-raise?

Thanks
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Old 03-29-2005, 12:58 AM
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Default Re: Are you good enough to make these laydowns?

Pertinent stack and bet sizes would be helpful.

BC

If I have 75 bucks on a 25-50 cent game 4 limpers to me I jack it to 4 bucks and some donkey moves in with 10-15 Its gonna be hard for me to lay QQ down.

OTOH If I have 100 and an opponent has 100 he makes a decent raise in MP I reraise to say 7 in LP then he moves it in for 93 more its almost always a fold.
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Old 03-29-2005, 01:01 AM
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Default Re: Are you good enough to make these laydowns?

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OTOH If I have 100 and an opponent has 100 he makes a decent raise in MP I reraise to say 7 in LP then he moves it in for 93 more its almost always a fold.


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This is pretty much what happened. Closer to the truth: He raised to about 2.50 preflop. I bumped it up to 6 and he went over the top. I had had a hugely profitable table and had doubled my $50 up to $100, so it was about $40 more for me to call.
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Old 03-29-2005, 01:05 AM
BobboFitos BobboFitos is offline
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Default Re: Are you good enough to make these laydowns?

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Kaz:

Is that based stronly on a read of your opponent, your dislike of the ladies, simple respect of a re-raise?

Thanks

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i never fold black queens because i like to show racial harmony

same thing about red queens, they need something other then reservations

the interracial ones i muck, im not big into that.

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100bb stacks i fold to PFAI with QQ. I do not fold KK though. As a matter of fact, yesterday in my session I folded QQ when someone raised, guy called in LP, I bumped it up from SB, and original raiser pushed (fairly big overbet) I let it go.

*most opponents I dont think it's a tough fold, also. and some you'd be crazy to let them go. but an unknown it's a fold.
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Old 03-29-2005, 01:54 AM
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Default Re: Are you good enough to make these laydowns?

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I fold QQ before the flop with some regularity.

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Old 03-29-2005, 01:58 AM
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Default Re: Are you good enough to make these laydowns?

Folding a set in a small stakes game is almost criminal, given the way that people overplay TPTK, overpairs, etc.

Folding QQ pre-flop is situation dependent, but given that you're generally at best a 55% favorite, or an 80% dog, it's easy to drop.
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