How bad?

Entity · #1 03-18-2005, 04:02 PM

Stars $3/6.

One very predictable, bad opponent openlimps in the CO. Both blinds are loose-passive and also very readable. I've got 75s on the Button and overlimp.

I think it's too loose -- but by how much? Is this ok with two predictable limpers?

Rob

djoyce003 · #2 03-18-2005, 04:10 PM

I never overcall with a crappy hand like that, even on the button. I raise a lot of hands here, but I almost never just overcall with something that weak. I might overcall with j 10 off, but not 75. I'm looking to raise or fold a hand, not limp, and 75s is not raise material, especially against loose blinds.

sublime · #3 03-18-2005, 04:13 PM

its the button man, limp away [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Grisgra · #4 03-18-2005, 04:19 PM

I think it's pretty horrible. If it weren't a one-gap and there was one more limper you might be able to get away with it if they are all donks.

Entity · #5 03-18-2005, 05:41 PM

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I think it's pretty horrible. If it weren't a one-gap and there was one more limper you might be able to get away with it if they are all donks.

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They are all donks. The limper is a 70/20 sort of guy, so he doesn't have anything approaching decent here. Both would donate multiple bets with Ace or King high.

The difference in terms of equity between 87s and 75s is pretty small here (3%). Is it large enough that this is really that terrible, or is 87s something you don't want to be playing here either?

Rob

rory · #6 03-18-2005, 05:45 PM

Being last to act after loose-passive, non-tricky opponents is a happy place to be. 75s is a good limp.

Entity · #7 03-18-2005, 05:46 PM

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Why? When your opponents are really predictable and really bad, what's wrong with wanting to see a flop?

I'm not defending 75s here, it's the lowest I've ever limped in this situation, but I don't get the "raise or fold" territory.

Rob

rory · #8 03-18-2005, 05:48 PM

If the blinds are tight then you should raise the limper. Since they are loose and passive and readable, then limping is good since they won't fold if you raise.

Entity · #9 03-18-2005, 05:48 PM

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Being last to act after loose-passive, non-tricky opponents is a happy place to be. 75s is a good limp.

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Hey Rory,

They can be aggressive (the guy on my right has a penchant for overplaying his flush draws on the flop and the turn), but it's predictably aggressive when they are (and they are usually passive). I don't know if that makes sense or helps here.

Rob

7ontheline · #10 03-18-2005, 05:51 PM

I tend to agree that 75s is not a grat hand but not necessarily a LOT worse than 87s or similar hands - I wouldn't overlimp here but I don't think it's THAT bad if you're smart postflop.