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Old 03-18-2005, 02:31 PM
MissOt MissOt is offline
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Default horribly played hand, but easy fold on river?

dno what to do pf so just called

thought i was good on flop and wanted to raise on turn

turn sucked and he bet big so i thought it was KK or AA but could also be AK

river sucked too. every hand beats me. i took clock down to 2 secs and folded

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) converter

SB ($24.5)
BB ($24.75)
UTG ($22.4)
UTG+1 ($78.24)
MP1 ($25.7)
MP2 ($21.06)
MP3 ($39.65)
Hero ($25.9)
Button ($19.8)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, MP2 calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $1.5</font>, Hero calls $1.50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds.

Flop: ($4.10) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $3</font>, Hero calls $3.

Turn: ($10.10) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $6</font>, Hero calls $6.

River: ($22.10) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $15.4</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $37.50

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
MP3 has Ah Qc (full house, aces full of queens).
Outcome: MP3 wins $37.50. </font>

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Old 03-18-2005, 02:33 PM
mackthefork mackthefork is offline
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Default Re: horribly played hand, but easy fold on river?

Haven't looked at the results yet but thats the worst fold i've ever seen in my life.

Mack
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Old 03-18-2005, 02:39 PM
casmells casmells is offline
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Default Re: horribly played hand, but easy fold on river?

I peaked at results, but I see absolutely no reason to fold this river unless you KNOW FOR A FACT that MP3 doesn;t raise pf without AA/KK/AK/AQ.
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Old 03-18-2005, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: horribly played hand, but easy fold on river?

Does anyone else reraise PF here, or raise the flop?

Scott
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Old 03-18-2005, 02:45 PM
xorbie xorbie is offline
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Default Re: horribly played hand, but easy fold on river?

Reraise PF. Raise the flop. This will make the entire hand much easier to play.

By playing passive, you have no idea if he has AK, AQ, AJs, KQ, AJo or KK.
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Old 03-18-2005, 02:46 PM
nickey009 nickey009 is offline
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Default Re: horribly played hand, but easy fold on river?

Not only is it one of the worst folds I've seen it's one of the worst played hands I've ever seen. How do you not raise at any time during the hand? It's easier to take if he has to hit a 2 outter on you.
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Old 03-18-2005, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: horribly played hand, but easy fold on river?

[ QUOTE ]
Does anyone else reraise PF here, or raise the flop?

Scott

[/ QUOTE ]

1. Yes, most of the time
2. Definetly on the flop. Hopefully they hit a strong A and we can get some some pot building going on here.
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Old 03-18-2005, 02:50 PM
kongo_totte kongo_totte is offline
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Default Re: horribly played hand, but easy fold on river?

I re-raise PF, but calling is not horrible.
I re-raise the flop, but calling is the least bad play in this hand. However, I always re-raise the turn. Not for protection but for value. Either he has hit the board good or he has nothing and is not giving you any more money.

Also, another diamond will either kill your hand or kill your action.

And no, on the river, he'll have to show me his boat.
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Old 03-18-2005, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: horribly played hand, but easy fold on river?

I think the pre-flop call is ok, could go either way depending on read from MP3. 5 x bb is a good raise from MP3 for AA, KK, AK. Raising 5 x bb with AQ from MP3 is a bit strong in my opinion, but I know no one here is a fan of smaller raises here.
Flop calls for raise to $8 - $10.
Push on turn.
Assuming you don't push on turn, this is in no way a lay down. Biggest problem with this hand is that you weren't all in.
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Old 03-18-2005, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: horribly played hand, but easy fold on river?

wow im surprised with the replies. i really didnt think he would be raising that strongly over 2 limpers with AJ or less???
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