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Old 03-16-2005, 09:44 PM
kongo_totte kongo_totte is offline
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Default 8 8-hand played by MTT-newbie.

I play mostly cash games, sometimes SNG:s and barely ever MTT:s (this is maybe my 5th MTT, and my first live one). So excuse me if this is a no-brainer.

30-player live NLHE MTT 1000 starting chips w/ unlimited rebuys during the first 90 minutes (if you have less than 1 000). A couple of hours have gone by and there are 25 left in the tournament, but alot are about to drop out soon.

I had been dealt crap and only seen 1 flop all day (early double up). My stack is down to 2 000 after a battle of the blinds which I had to fold pre-flop after investing quite alot [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img].

Average stack is about 4 000 and the blinds are 100/200. Table is loose/passive, w/ a couple of LAGs and weak-tight me is on the button w/ 400. MP (villian)is loose but seems to be decent. UTG+1 will raise any ace from any position but fold if played back at.

LAG UTG+1 makes it 600, loose-passive in MP calls and it's folded to me w/ 8 8.

Fold or push?
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Old 03-16-2005, 09:52 PM
valenzuela valenzuela is offline
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Default Re: 8 8-hand played by MTT-newbie.

damn you..now I feel like the terrible player I am...ehhh..I suppose a call ain that bad...
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Old 03-16-2005, 10:33 PM
kongo_totte kongo_totte is offline
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Default Re: 8 8-hand played by MTT-newbie.

Well, as I said, I'm not tournament player, but I can't imagining putting in 3/10 of my when there isn't a single flop i'd like can be correct in any form of HE.
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Old 03-16-2005, 10:47 PM
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Default Re: 8 8-hand played by MTT-newbie.

You have to push any ace-less flop IMO.
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Old 03-16-2005, 11:43 PM
Mike Gallo Mike Gallo is offline
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Default Re: 8 8-hand played by MTT-newbie.

You have enough chips left to play one more orbit. Table is loose/passive, w/ a couple of LAGs and weak-tight me is on the button w/ 400.
If I read this correctly and you had T400, I would surely go all in preflop.
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Old 03-17-2005, 08:34 AM
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Default Correction

Sorry, I have 2 000 left, not 400.
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Old 03-17-2005, 11:22 AM
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Default Re: 8 8-hand played by MTT-newbie.

What are the stack sizes of the villains in question?

I think you have to push preflop. You're probably around a 55:45 favorite to the range of hands that either villain has and the pots laying you good odds provided you only get one caller.
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Old 03-17-2005, 11:27 AM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: 8 8-hand played by MTT-newbie.

if you're fairly confident in your reads, i'd push. you probably won't win without a showdown, but you'll probably get the money in as a 55-45 with plenty of pot odds overlay. (i'm guessing you'll fold one out and get called by the other's overs).

some chance you'll wind up against a big pair (lags get cards too), but that's balanced by the fact that you might get called by A7 or 55 or something.
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Old 03-17-2005, 12:28 PM
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Default Re: 8 8-hand played by MTT-newbie.

I would probably call and push on most flops. You could also push preflop, but the initial raiser will almost certainly call.

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My stack is down to 2 000 after a battle of the blinds which I had to fold pre-flop after investing quite alot


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Seems like you probably needed to call the push on this hand. You were probably fairly pot committed and there is no reason to put the other blind on a big pair.
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Old 03-17-2005, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: 8 8-hand played by MTT-newbie.

Ugg, am I horribly weak, my first instinct was to fold... Lemme think about it a bit more. I know for sure I'm not calling.

Gavin
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