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KK in MP was I too aggresive?
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter
BB is LAP Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls. Flop: (8 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls. I figure I have a 69% chance of best hand at the river. I have 7 outs Turn: (12 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls. Chances are still 60% I will have best hand but I'm worried River: (20 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls. I know I'm beat (only 11% chance now) but with good pot odds, I cant drop. Was I too aggresive? Would any drop on the river (or even the turn)? Final Pot: 24 BB |
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Re: KK in MP was I too aggresive?
No, I don't think so. PF. Flop, and turn look fine.
I would have check called the river. |
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Re: KK in MP was I too aggresive?
Folding either the turn or river would be beyond horrible. You're dragging this way more than 5% of the time.
Also, I play this the same on all streets. I'm fine with the river bet. There are a lot of two pair hands that will call you, and the only (realistic) hand you're losing to is the rivered gutshot. I'll just have to pay that off if somebody chased me down on this one. |
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Re: KK in MP was I too aggresive?
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Folding either the turn or river would be beyond horrible. You're dragging this way more than 5% of the time. [/ QUOTE ] How Much more? |
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Re: KK in MP was I too aggresive?
Looks like Button cold-called 3 times with his J and luckily got his rivered broadway.
You have the best hand on the flop, so the cap is easy. On the turn, I'm not giving anyone credit for QJ (and no one plays like they do). Unfortunately, the river is 4 to a broadway and like I said, it looks like Button called all the way with a J. I probably check/call the river. |
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Re: KK in MP was I too aggresive?
You played it fine, but with this many players on the river I'd check-call.
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Re: KK in MP was I too aggresive?
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[ QUOTE ] Folding either the turn or river would be beyond horrible. You're dragging this way more than 5% of the time. [/ QUOTE ] How Much more? [/ QUOTE ] The only hands he's losing to are AA (which seems very unlikely) and Jx. Button will sometimes be overplaying two pair (KQ) or will be bluffing at the scary board. Some would even play this way with 33, although admittedly that would be pretty ugly. I'm guessing Hero wins this 20% of the time or so, but that could be on the high side. Still, this is an easy call. |
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Re: KK in MP was I too aggresive?
Agreed, I see a lot of people taking pot-shots at 4-flush and 4-straight boards. That said, I think the bet's a little bit frisky. Easy check-call.
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Re: KK in MP was I too aggresive?
I think you played it well. But I'm not sure about the river, I might have check/called but I think it's really close. If the river is a 3rd flush card I check/call, but here the value bet seems okay.
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Re: KK in MP was I too aggresive?
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Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter BB is LAP Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls. Flop: (8 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls. I figure I have a 69% chance of best hand at the river. I have 7 outs Turn: (12 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls. Chances are still 60% I will have best hand but I'm worried River: (20 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls. I know I'm beat (only 11% chance now) but with good pot odds, I cant drop. Was I too aggresive? Would any drop on the river (or even the turn)? Final Pot: 24 BB [/ QUOTE ] this is perfect. |
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