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Old 03-15-2005, 11:17 PM
chio chio is offline
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Default i hate it when i bloat the pot

i had been raising a lot preflop. BB was a loose bad aggro player who had been watching me take down pot after pot.

his preflop 3bet does not mean a premium hand, probably would do it with any pp, any ace, any 2 broadway, maybe something like T9s, but def not anything like 64s or 97o.

perfect time to just call the 3bet preflop?
any point to getting out of line on the flop?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
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Old 03-15-2005, 11:45 PM
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Default Re: i hate it when i bloat the pot

I hate these spots [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Given your read on him, and your read on his read on you, I think calling preflop is the thing to do. You will have a very difficult time pushing out ace high being out of position heads up.

Given your cap which wasn't terrible imo, fold to the raise.

-DrG
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Old 03-16-2005, 06:00 AM
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Default Re: i hate it when i bloat the pot

Why cap preflop HU out of position with K high? This hand sucks vs an Ace or PP.

When you dont have an Ace or a PP you have to hit the flop so dont invest so heavily. Call his 3bet then check the flop, I'd probably dump it since you totally missed.
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Old 03-16-2005, 10:26 PM
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Default Re: i hate it when i bloat the pot

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Why cap preflop HU out of position with K high? This hand sucks vs an Ace or PP.

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because i know he's raising light? because i know he thinks i don't have much of a hand? because KQs is a strong hand HU?

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When you dont have an Ace or a PP you have to hit the flop so dont invest so heavily. Call his 3bet then check the flop, I'd probably dump it since you totally missed.

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i agree with this now - KQs is a strong hand, but if he's not folding any pair or ace high, it is tough to play out of position
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Old 03-16-2005, 10:27 PM
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Given your read on him, and your read on his read on you, I think calling preflop is the thing to do. You will have a very difficult time pushing out ace high being out of position heads up.

Given your cap which wasn't terrible imo, fold to the raise.


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a simple, but great analysis, thanks. when i'm thinking clearly i play it this way.
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