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03-15-2005, 05:23 PM
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hellmuth in stars 100-200
I got a kick from some of the comments on rgp about what a great player phil is when playing in this game. below is a hh of a hand I played with him. he quit shortly after that, with comments from the remaining players of, "there goes the game," and "game over, man." the game broke down to a few hardcores a few minutes after he left.
PokerStars Game #xxxx: Hold'em Limit ($100/$200) - (ET) Table 'Suevia' Seat #8 is the button Seat 1: B Buddy ($24605 in chips) Seat 2: scoopydo ($2047 in chips) Seat 3: wild chinese ($3834.50 in chips) Seat 4: GROGAN ($3970.50 in chips) Seat 5: Dan Druff ($2514 in chips) Seat 6: offthenuts ($2847 in chips) Seat 7: Spyder44 ($3359 in chips) Seat 8: Joe Medwick ($15966 in chips) Seat 9:snakehead($4800 in chips) Seat 10: #1_Lucky_One ($1500 in chips) mtnman: posts small blind $50 #1_Lucky_One: posts big blind $100 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to snakehead [6d Ah] B Buddy: folds B Buddy leaves the table scoopydo: folds wild chinese: folds GROGAN: folds Dan Druff: folds offthenuts: folds Spyder44: folds Joe Medwick: folds thedonator joins the table at seat #1 snakehead: raises $100 to $200 thedonator is sitting out #1_Lucky_One: calls $100 *** FLOP *** [5s 4h 7s] snakehead: bets $100 #1_Lucky_One: raises $100 to $200 snakehead: calls $100 *** TURN *** [5s 4h 7s] [7c] snakehead: checks #1_Lucky_One: bets $200 snakehead: raises $200 to $400 #1_Lucky_One: calls $200 *** RIVER *** [5s 4h 7s 7c] [Ad] snakehead: bets $200 #1_Lucky_One: calls $200 *** SHOW DOWN *** snakehead: shows [6d Ah] (two pair, Aces and Sevens) #1_Lucky_One: mucks hand snakehead collected $1997 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $2000 | Rake $3 Board [5s 4h 7s 7c Ad] Seat 1: B Buddy folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: scoopydo folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: wild chinese folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: GROGAN folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: Dan Druff folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: offthenuts folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: Spyder44 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: Joe Medwick (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: snakehead (small blind) showed [6d Ah] and won ($1997) with two pair, Aces and Sevens Seat 10: #1_Lucky_One (big blind) mucked [Ks 9h] 
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#2
03-15-2005, 05:53 PM
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Re: hellmuth in stars 100-200
Ni han. There's a reason that Phil stopped playing at Bay 101 years ago. They chewed him up.
BTW: You may want to edit the post since you forgot to change your screenname once.
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#3
03-15-2005, 05:57 PM
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Re: hellmuth in stars 100-200
I don't think I got all of that. I hope it's in his book so I can really study it. What I really need help with is the call of your check-raise on the turn with K-high/no draw.
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#4
03-15-2005, 06:55 PM
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Re: hellmuth in stars 100-200
I'm sure he's still up in that game. Over the last year I have seen him score 20 grand or more within an hour or so multiple times. And when he does lose his average losses were nowhere near that big.
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#5
03-15-2005, 06:57 PM
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Re: hellmuth in stars 100-200
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I don't think I got all of that. I hope it's in his book so I can really study it. What I really need help with is the call of your check-raise on the turn with K-high/no draw. [/ QUOTE ] He was defending against exactly what snakeman had. A draw. Unfortunatly for Phil, snakeman's kicker was an ace. Phil's big mistake wasn't calling the k/r, or calling on the river. It was betting the turn. - Andrew www.pokerstove.com
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#6
03-15-2005, 07:29 PM
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Re: hellmuth in stars 100-200
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He was defending against exactly what snakeman had. A draw. Unfortunatly for Phil, snakeman's kicker was an ace. Phil's big mistake wasn't calling the k/r, or calling on the river. It was betting the turn. - Andrew [/ QUOTE ] Yes, betting the turn was a mistake. Calling the raise was compounding the mistake. I'm sure you agree. He's getting 6:1 effective, MAYBE 8:1 implied, and has 6 weak potential outs, let's count 5, liberally. He has obviously decided to call down with K-high against all but the scariest river cards. He must have Snakehead on Q-high or worse when he check-raised the turn, I guess. I see this all the time in that game, guys falling in love with their reads. The math dictates a fold to the raise on the turn. Am I missing something? Even if we count all six outs as clean, and we throw in the 5-10% that his king is good, it's STILL a fold.
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#10
03-15-2005, 11:48 PM
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Re: hellmuth in stars 100-200
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then how do you explain everyone jumping in the game whenever he shows up? [/ QUOTE ] Well, maybe some of them want to play with a superstar pro? If Phil Ivey sat in the game I guarentee it would be fill up super fast.
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