Drowning in a sea of doubt; strong swimmers needed.

[ElAnimal]

I’m stuck in a downswing and I need some feedback to stay sane.

I’m a modest winner (around 2.5BB/100) at 2/4 & 3/6 Party Poker ring games over about 50K hands. I usually play 3 to 4 tables at a time. Over the last 5K hands, I’m averaging about - 0.2 BB/100. Do you stronger players out there (the Chiefs, Fat Nickys, Qtips, Cnfuzzds, Gaming Mouses of the world) commonly fight through 5K losing streaks like this, or is this a rarity for you guys? Do you typically experience swings that are longer and more severe, or is this one pretty bad? (it feels horrible)

This is my first post, but I soak up your hand analysis daily. Thanks for all your posts and replies.

[bakku]

I’m a modest winner (around 2.5BB/100) at 2/4 & 3/6 Party Poker ring games over about 50K hands.

This isn't a modest winner, this is a good winrate.

Over the last 5K hands, I’m averaging about - 0.2 BB/100.

This isn't bad at all. Trust me, you can do a lot worse.

[meep_42]

5k hands is a drop in the bucket, over the long term. My first 5k hands at .5/1 were something like -1BB/100 -- and that's .5/1!

It sucks to be breakeven that long (you're only down 10BB, less than 1 pot), but it happens to everyone. I'd trade that run for my last two days, where i'm down much more than 10BB. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Just keep playing, focus on the process and not the results and things will turn around.

-d

[Fat Nicky]

over my last 30K hands, i'm 3BB/100, my previous 50K hands prior to that, i was .4BB/100...just keep playing, keep trying to improve your game, learn there will be long streaks where you will not be a significant winner and you'll be fine.

[shant]

For the first 2 months of this year, I was in a terrible breakeven streak, and near the end of that streak, in a soul-crushing downswing. I've since made back the difference in about a week and a half. Just keep playing and studying and trying to improve and keep in mind that it will pass.

[QTip]

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I’m a modest winner (around 2.5BB/100) at 2/4 & 3/6 Party Poker ring games over about 50K hands.

This isn't a modest winner, this is a good winrate.

Over the last 5K hands, I’m averaging about - 0.2 BB/100.

This isn't bad at all. Trust me, you can do a lot worse.


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I just can't say it any better.

And like meep said, 5K hands is not much. I've played that many in 1 day before (one very long 8 table day).

I don't know if you're thinking you should come out of every session or handful of sessions a winner or not...but it just doesn't always happen that way.

Have you ever seen this spreadsheet? It really helps to put things in perspective.

Homer's Streaks Spreadsheet

[junkmail3]

So, basically, you've won $5000 playing 50000 hands and have lost $40 playing 5000 hands (using just 2/4 numbers) ... I'm not very concerned here.

Or it's rigged.

[chief444]

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Do you stronger players out there (the Chiefs, Fat Nickys, Qtips, Cnfuzzds, Gaming Mouses of the world) commonly fight through 5K losing streaks like this, or is this a rarity for you guys?

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I'm slightly negative right now over my last 4k or so. Running slightly negative for 5k hands isn't that unusual. But neither is running very well over 5k. Either way I don't sleep any better or worse each night.

[rmarotti]

I'm playing the world's smallest violin for you right now.

[Argus]

A lot of times the forums already answer your questions. I just joined Empire and in 5k hands at 3/6 my win rate has varied from 4bb/100 to it's current 0.3 bb/100. This happens. If you figure out a way to not let it bother you let me know.