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03-14-2005, 12:03 AM
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check JJ in BB 1/2 Stars
hey... i'm wondering what people like to do with a mid-high pair in the BB my thoughts were in micro limit my bet isn't getting anyone to fold and any overcard to my JJ doesn't look good... so i dislike most flops. and if i hit a set i'll get paid off more if i dont' show strength preflop. therefore i check JJ in the BB. anyone play this for a raise and if so can i heard your thoughts.
thanks Gerard 
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#2
03-14-2005, 12:05 AM
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Re: check JJ in BB 1/2 Stars
this is a not a debatable situation. its +EV to raise JJ from the BB
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#4
03-14-2005, 12:09 AM
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Re: check JJ in BB 1/2 Stars
Well, I've been considering it, and I'm pretty sure here's the situation. I win with AA 76% of the time or so, that means I'm wasting 26% of my bankroll on aces. That's unacceptable. I submit that since aces always gets cracked by two-pair and [censored], that we discard AA, and keep KK and QQ in the same group since an A always pops up when you have either KK or QQ, and that's just like AA getting cracked by two-pair.
By discard I mean open fold in the BB or fold preflop everywhere else.
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#5
03-14-2005, 12:12 AM
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Re: check JJ in BB 1/2 Stars
i don't see how this isn't debatable... what are the odds of the board having no overcard? Do you not agree that you get more of a pay off if you check and hit your set? what is raising doing? only building a pot which unless you hit a set or a lucky 10 high board is often not going to be yours. you will not get anyone to fold here. side note... i'm talking with 3+limpers... i agree with one or two limpers i'm raising... however with 4+ u have to expect QK and A to be out there. i want to hear more then this is +EV... why do u say that? what are your reasons for the raise...
i am not saying i'm right but i'm not going to agree with such a empty statement such as it's not debatable...
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#7
03-14-2005, 12:17 AM
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Re: check JJ in BB 1/2 Stars
JJ has significant power alone as a single pair. I didn't realize you were really serious, this is just common sense. Just because a Q/K/A pops up often doesn't mean you should play it like dogshit.
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#8
03-14-2005, 12:20 AM
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Re: check JJ in BB 1/2 Stars
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you're doing the same as the first guy to respond... WHY RAISE? i can't have my mind changed over such an empty statement... [/ QUOTE ] empty statement.. c'mon dude.. if you don't trust peep's opinions, don't ask for it. anyway, the raise is for value. you have a better hand than average. push it while you know you have an edge. how about this.. convince us that *not* raising and passing up on your PF equity edge allows you to make up *MORE* bets postflop via deception, folding on Axx flops, etc..
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