AJ on a rag board.

Schizo · #1 03-12-2005, 11:35 PM

No read

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Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP2 raises, 4 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.33 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.16 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 4.16 BB

ewile · #2 03-12-2005, 11:46 PM

eh, pot's small, you don't have position you're beat by any pair and better A's. I might even fold on the turn and move on.

(alternate aggressive line against LAG: c/r the flop, bet out the turn. Fold to a raise.)

Schizo · #3 03-12-2005, 11:49 PM

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I might even fold on the turn and move on.

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I did.

ewile · #4 03-12-2005, 11:51 PM

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I might even fold on the turn and move on.

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I did.

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Duh, I'm brain dead. I meant flop.

Schizo · #5 03-12-2005, 11:53 PM

I was told folding on the flop is wrong by a very good poker player.

gaming_mouse · #6 03-13-2005, 12:04 AM

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I was told folding on the flop is wrong by a very good poker player.

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Schizo,

I bet out on the flop. Then, if you are raised, you won't feel so bad about folding the turn.

GrunchCan · #7 03-13-2005, 12:10 AM

I like CRing the flop, and then that's the last bet I'll put in without improvement.

afk · #8 03-13-2005, 02:06 AM

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I bet out on the flop. Then, if you are raised, you won't feel so bad about folding the turn.

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This is very read dependant (which is unfortuanatly absent in this hand) but I think against a lot of players betting out on this flop is asking to get raised. I think the aggression shown from a flop check-raise gives hero the best chance of taking it down (of course hero would have to follow up with a turn bet). Again, it's read dependant. Against some I might check-raise the flop and against others I might check fold and against very tight raisers I'm not sure I'd even see the flop.

GrunchCan · #9 03-13-2005, 02:13 AM

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of course hero would have to follow up with a turn bet

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I disagree. If we check the turn here, and don't improve on the river and the villan bets in to us, I think Hero can safely fold. The villan isn't likely to be on a bluff here. Betting the turn again is just costing us 1 extra bet to get to the river.

afk · #10 03-13-2005, 02:18 AM

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of course hero would have to follow up with a turn bet

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I disagree. If we check the turn here, and don't improve on the river and the villan bets in to us, I think Hero can safely fold. The villan isn't likely to be on a bluff here. Betting the turn again is just costing us 1 extra bet to get to the river.

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Hah, it pays to read the rest of your original post.

I guess there's two ways to look at it, C/R to look at the river for free or C/R and follow up to hope to take it down right there. Instinctively if I decided to C/R I'd probably follow up. C/R for a free card strikes me as FPS right away, but when I think about it more it makes sense <----Edit, more thought makes me think it makes less sense. carry on.