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Old 03-12-2005, 01:44 AM
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Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (5.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 7.75 BB

The hero is JoshuaD. As you can see, he's what I would consider a "bad" player. I'm surprised he's lasted this long at 2/4, I've been stealing his stacks for months now in plays just like this.

ps, villain was LPP.
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Old 03-12-2005, 01:57 AM
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I screwed this hand up so bad I can't even tell you were I f<font color="black">ucked</font> up. I was suffering some sort of reverse tilt after this run:



Yes, I was using the way ahead / way behind line. Yes, I suck.

The worst part about this hand is the Villian's a LP-P.
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Old 03-12-2005, 02:01 AM
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At PP 2/4, I'd call PF, fold the flop. At a micro, some might raise PF, but I can't think of many who would call that flop; most I can think of would raise or fold. BTW, sometimes bad players get good cards.
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Old 03-12-2005, 02:07 AM
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The proper preflop play is protection for your 8s. The last thing you want is for the BB to be able to play his J4o or for SB to complete with whatever trash he feels like completing with.
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Old 03-12-2005, 02:12 AM
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At PP 2/4, I'd call PF, fold the flop. At a micro, some might raise PF, but I can't think of many who would call that flop; most I can think of would raise or fold. BTW, sometimes bad players get good cards.

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Preflop is fine, I was isolating the bad player. The table would let me so I did.
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Old 03-12-2005, 02:15 AM
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I'd fold the flop.
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Old 03-12-2005, 02:17 AM
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I'd fold the flop.

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Me too. Whoever played this hand really sucks.
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Old 03-12-2005, 02:17 AM
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The proper preflop play is protection for your 8s.

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For what its worth, SSH prescribes a limp in with 8s or 9s here, PFR with TT+.
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Old 03-12-2005, 02:22 AM
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It's pretty common sense here. Isolation and protection with a weak made hand. Regardless of following exactly what SSH prescribes preflop, this is definitely one of the more important concepts. There are a ton of bad cards that can fall here, and the fewer hands that possibly have them, the better.
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Old 03-12-2005, 02:23 AM
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You're a good sport.
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