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Old 03-10-2005, 02:14 AM
antidan444 antidan444 is offline
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Default May be routine, may not be ...

... frankly, I'm not sure. Help me out.

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero folds, MP2 calls.

River: (10.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: 11.50 BB
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Old 03-10-2005, 02:21 AM
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Default Re: May be routine, may not be ...

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... frankly, I'm not sure. Help me out.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero folds, MP2 calls.

River: (10.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: 11.50 BB

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The flop slowdown and turn CR is a sure indication you're beat, but I'd give you about 5-6 outs here. Getting 9.5:1 I'd see the river.
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Old 03-10-2005, 03:08 PM
callydrias callydrias is offline
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Default Re: May be routine, may not be ...

Fold preflop. Otherwise, I think it's okay.
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Old 03-10-2005, 03:17 PM
IsaacW IsaacW is offline
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Default Re: May be routine, may not be ...

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Fold preflop.

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This is terrible advice. You'd have to be pretty sure that MP1 only ever plays big pocket pairs AND that everyone else is guaranteed to fold to his limp before folding preflop would be even close to correct.
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Old 03-10-2005, 03:28 PM
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Default Re: May be routine, may not be ...

I don't understand betting the turn.
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Old 03-10-2005, 03:29 PM
sy_or_bust sy_or_bust is offline
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Preflop is perfect, and I like the rest of the hand.
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Old 03-10-2005, 03:39 PM
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I don't understand betting the turn.

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Do you advise him to check? check call? I like the bet, as I think there is a chance he has the best hand.
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Old 03-10-2005, 03:54 PM
callydrias callydrias is offline
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Default Re: May be routine, may not be ...

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Fold preflop.

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This is terrible advice. You'd have to be pretty sure that MP1 only ever plays big pocket pairs AND that everyone else is guaranteed to fold to his limp before folding preflop would be even close to correct.

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If the table is passive, then I think this call is okay - but that was never originally stated. I play this from late position, but not from early-middle. I don't want to have to call a preflop raise from right behind me for a hand that usually has to hit a set to win.
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Old 03-10-2005, 03:59 PM
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I'd call the turn c/r and fold the river UI.
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Old 03-10-2005, 04:08 PM
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I don't understand betting the turn.

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me too.
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