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Old 03-09-2005, 03:14 AM
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Default The flush draw gets there with 3 opps...what\'s my river action?

MP1 is unknown, < 50 hands
MP2 is 54/3.5/.5, loose-passive defined
Button is 42/4.5/1

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Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Button calls.

Flop: (10 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, MP2 calls, Button calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (13 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP2 calls, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Button calls.

River: (21 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero ...

Edited to remove final pot size
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Old 03-09-2005, 03:23 AM
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Default Re: The flush draw gets there with 3 opps...what\'s my river action?

You have the nut fh, whats the question? Were you thinking about checkraising the river?
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Old 03-09-2005, 03:24 AM
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Default Re: The flush draw gets there with 3 opps...what\'s my river action?

I'm leading.

They will likely call you if they weren't drawing and raise if they have a flush.

Going for a CR here is only going to cost you bets when they weren't drawing to a flush and it gets checked through in fear of a flush.
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Old 03-09-2005, 03:28 AM
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Default Re: The flush draw gets there with 3 opps...what\'s my river action?

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You have the nut fh, whats the question? Were you thinking about checkraising the river?

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Yes, when the spade hit, it crossed my mind that one of them could have hit a flush draw...other things crossed my mind, but that was the first thing.
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Old 03-09-2005, 03:31 AM
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Default Re: The flush draw gets there with 3 opps...what\'s my river action?

just bet it and hope they raise.
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Old 03-09-2005, 01:49 PM
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Default Re: The flush draw gets there with 3 opps...what\'s my river action?

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just bet it and hope they raise.

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Old 03-09-2005, 02:12 PM
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Default Re: The flush draw gets there with 3 opps...what\'s my river action?

easiest river lead ever.
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Old 03-09-2005, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: The flush draw gets there with 3 opps...what\'s my river action?

Most of these typical opponents play with blinders on. They don't really pay attention to previous action and they see their flush hit and want to raise. Bet and hope you can 3-bet.
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Old 03-09-2005, 03:28 PM
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MP1 is unknown, &lt; 50 hands
MP2 is 54/3.5/.5, loose-passive defined
Button is 42/4.5/1

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Button calls.

Flop: (10 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, MP2 calls, Button calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (13 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP2 calls, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Button calls.

River: (21 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero ...</font>


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So I considered going for a CR, but thought that, given the flop action, if a flush got there, the flushee ought to raise and I can then 3-bet.

I bet, MP1 called, MP2 called, and button folded.

They both had flushes, and neither raised...MP1 had T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] x[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and MP2 had J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] y[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Glad I didn't miss an "obvious" river CR.

Thanks for the responses.
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