DId I Play A/A Wrong?

p@t@dds · #1 03-05-2005, 10:02 PM

Did I play this hand wrong? Or should I just chalk it up as a loss?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (10 handed) converter

BB (t390)
UTG (t1915)
UTG+1 (t2205)
UTG+2 (t465)
MP1 (t995)
MP2 (t1635)
Hero (t1050)
CO (t2110)
Button (t875)
SB (t1835)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t30, UTG+2 calls t30, MP1 raises to t95, 1 fold, Hero raises to t225, 4 folds, UTG+1 calls t195, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls t130.

Flop: (t750) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 raises all-in to t1980, MP1 Folds, Hero calls all-in t825.

Turn: (t2400) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)

River: (t2400) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)

Final Pot: t2400

Results in white below: 
UTG+1 has Jh Qh (straight, queen high).
Hero has Ah Ac (one pair, aces).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins t2400.

Rednax · #2 03-06-2005, 02:08 AM

Absent any reads, I would say that you have to defend the Aces a little more. At this stage of this type of tournament you might get a caller if you went allin, and there's enough money in the pot to make that a viable option. But I would instead try to make a bet designed to get you the ideal situation; that is, your Aces against a lower pair or another Ace.

MP1 with the raise sounds like that kind of player, whereas UTG1 might have anything. A raise of about triple the last raise often will get the last raiser to call, and everyone else to fold. In this situation I think that's what you want. Whenever I lose with Aces I want to feel that the other person made a terrible call to stay in the hand with me. With the money already in the pot, and a suited QJ, UTG1 may not have made a terrible call.

Jax_Grinder · #3 03-06-2005, 02:17 AM

Kinda smells like a bad beat post....

That said, I agree that your mistake (and not a horrendous one as JQ e probably should not have been in the hand for 195 more on top of his call...absent his huge stack) was only coming over the top for another 70 chips over the pot.

Spladle Master · #4 03-06-2005, 02:45 AM

UTG+1 is retarded.

Don't post bad beats unless they are interesting.

This hand isn't interesting.

smartalecc5 · #5 03-06-2005, 03:13 AM

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UTG+1 is retarded.

Don't post bad beats unless they are interesting.

This hand isn't interesting.

[/ QUOTE ]

Since when are oyu the board nazi?

p@t@dds · #6 03-06-2005, 05:52 AM

[ QUOTE ]
UTG+1 is retarded.

Don't post bad beats unless they are interesting.

This hand isn't interesting.

[/ QUOTE ]

This wasn't a bad beat post. I was seriously wondering if I played the hand wrong or not. Should I have gone all-in preflop? Should I have not called the all-in from UTG+1 after the flop? I thought this site was about bettering your game. If you don't have any advice about the hand then please keep your comments to yourself.

p@t@dds · #7 03-06-2005, 06:04 AM

Thanks for the reply, I'm new to NL tournaments and I'm still trying to grasp all the in's and out's. I was hoping my raise pre-flop would push out any weaker hands, which I believe it did. And, when UTG+1 went all-in after the flop, I put him on a pair of Queens. I was thinking Ace/Queen, not Queen/Jack and that's why I called him. Also, him going all-in before the bet got back to me (the pre-flop raiser) made me think he was trying to push me off a better hand. That is, if his hand was already made or he had more than top pair, he would wait for me to bet and then check-raise me.

My biggest question, however, is would you have folded A/A to his all-in bet after the flop? Any thoughts would be great.

JaBlue · #8 03-06-2005, 06:22 AM

you played it fine.

2005 · #9 03-06-2005, 07:55 AM

I'd make it 325 or so preflop. No, you're not folding once this flop comes down. That said, I'm going to take issue with a few things from this post...

"I was hoping my raise pre-flop would push out any weaker hands, which I believe it did"

-You really don't want weaker hands to fold, you want them to call incorrectly. If you make it 300ish, and QJ calls, that's fine, you're making money every time he puts that 300 in.

"I put him on a pair of Queens. I was thinking Ace/Queen, not Queen/Jack and that's why I called him"

-No, you called him because you had Aces and Aces were probably good. It doesn't matter if he has QJ or AQ or KQ, Aces beat Queens. He got lucky and made a straight, nothing you can do. Move on to the next tournament and chalk it up as a bad beat(get used to them btw, they happen alot).

Gavin Griffin

Elem100 · #10 03-06-2005, 09:57 AM

Id put villian on (90% Ad-Kd, 10% 10-10), thus net effect i'm expecting to win half the time with pot odds of 2:1 and therefore definitely call.