Good fold or money wasted?

Anders_G · #1 03-02-2005, 10:38 AM

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Lately I've started to play 1/2sh in order to prepare myself to jump from 3/6 to 5/10sh. I have only played like 3000 hands 1/2sh so I'm kind of a newbie to the game. I don't have any specific reads on the villains. Seem about average 1/2 players - nothing spectacular about any one of them.

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG raises, MP calls, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, MP calls, SB calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, MP 3-bets, SB folds, Hero folds...

Final Pot: 12 BB

I think it's a fold/cap-situation for me on the turn. Is it a good fold or am I too intimidated by the 3-bet? I'd give him credit for either KJ, J8 or a set - he's not 3-beting anything less in this situation. I think calling down is the worst oprtion, what does the rest of you think?

Any input would be appreciated, thank you.

chief444 · #2 03-02-2005, 10:47 AM

I think that's a pretty horrible fold.

27offsooot · #3 03-02-2005, 10:49 AM

I'm just checking, u folded the second nut? I think this is horrible. I would cap and at least three bet the river (and def cap if both of them are left) unless the board pairs.

AngryCola · #4 03-02-2005, 10:50 AM

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. I think calling down is the worst option

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I think it's a lot better than folding.
From where I'm sitting, folding is clearly the worst option.

This is 1/2 6-max.
I'm not folding here, unless my reads are extremely good.

Anders_G · #5 03-02-2005, 10:53 AM

To me 1/2 6-max is very non-tricky. People are not 3-betting unless they have a really good hand. I would def. cap given more tricky opponents, still I realise that this fold was horrible.

chief444 · #6 03-02-2005, 10:54 AM

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This is 1/2 6-max.
I'm not folding here, unless my reads are extremely good.

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I didn't even realize it was 6-max. And I thought it was a pretty terrible fold for a full ring game.

Anders_G · #7 03-02-2005, 10:58 AM

To me SH means it's more likely that the cold-caller holds KJ compared to a full game. But then again i'm new to the game.

ErrantNight · #8 03-02-2005, 10:59 AM

since the only hand that has you beat is KJ...

this is horrible.

horrendous, even.

if you're not capping, it's to c/r a non-jack river. and given your relative position, i'd prefer to cap.

AngryCola · #9 03-02-2005, 10:59 AM

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To me 1/2 6-max is very non-tricky. People are not 3-betting unless they have a really good hand.

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Let us assume you are completely correct about how 'non-tricky' your opponents are. Even assuming that, I'm willing to bet this opponent would 3-bet with 2-pair or a set.

Plus, the size of the pot clearly allowed you to be wrong in this case.

ErrantNight · #10 03-02-2005, 10:59 AM

two pair, a big pair and a frush draw, a big pair and a straight draw, a set... there's just too many combinations that you pwn to even CONSIDER folding this.